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Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by Gokhan, Dec 17, 2023.

  1. sylvaing

    sylvaing Active Member

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    Ok, so why did you response this

    So, you know better than the IIHS safety engineers, who dedicate their careers on this?

    When I said:

    Which, personally I find stupid if true, especially if the car in "DRCC" won't react fast enough to prevent a collision!

    It reads that you're saying EAB should be disabled then DRCC is enabled. Because what I said is in agreement with IIHS safety engineers, not the opposite.
     
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    I don't know why this is so hard to understand.

    What I linked above is the test protocol—not test results. Among other things, they tested whether AEB could be disabled when DRCC was active. If it could be, that's a fail for the test. Both IIHS and I say that it should not be possible to disable AEB with DRCC active for safety reasons.

    Nevertheless, their test results showed that in most (almost all) systems, including Ford's, AEB could be disabled when DRCC was active. So, all those systems failed the ADAS safety tests.

    I hope it is finally clear.
     
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    That still doesn't answer why you said

    So, you know better than the IIHS safety engineers, who dedicate their careers on this?
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    From their test of the Mach-E, it was possible to have AEB off with the ADAS, like DRCC, on.
    Now, who turns off the AEB? Like seat belt minders, the setting from the factory is very likely on.
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    No text or video can convey what happens with Full Self Driving. It takes seat time, best with a mentor in the passenger seat. Even so, some will not 'unlearn' their driving habits and reject Full Self Driving. But younger drivers will take to it as fast as they did to iPhones.

    Implicit with this post, I am willing to give mentored introductions to Full Self Driving. It takes a minimum of 30 minutes best broken up over two days so there is time to remember and replay the first session before the second.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    The local motorcyclist run down by the local driver using Tesla AP, in post #123, was wearing a GoPro camera. Investigators will try to download any video from it (likely facing away from the impact), and are also looking for any possible video from the Tesla (facing towards the impact). Can't convey everything, but could still be helpful.

    My cars have dashcams front and rear.
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    My Tesla has eight cameras and past video from "Sentry Mode" shows video recorded: front; both sides, and; rear view.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Having videos has sure helped us with insurance claims.
    I have seen quite a few reports of it helping with law enforcement as well.

    I spoke with a state trooper who said he “loves Teslas” as they make figuring out what happened much easier.
     
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    Sounds like a ringing endorsement for flock cameras, traffic cameras and facial recognition cameras and how they make society safer!
     
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    Bob Wilson
     
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    I feel very strongly that cameras in public spaces are a huge benifit to the public. It may be a big detriment to the insurance fraudsters as well as lawyers that get paid by the hour.
    Facial recognition really brings little more to the table, not sure why you added that in. Perhaps in edge cases.
     
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    Tesla’s 2 million car Autopilot recall is now under federal scrutiny | Ars Technica

    "After excluding crashes where the other car was at fault, where Autopilot wasn't operating, or where there was insufficient data to make a determination, it found 467 Autopilot crashes that fell into three distinct categories.

    First, 221 were frontal crashes in which the Tesla hit a car or obstacle despite "adequate time for an attentive driver to respond to avoid or mitigate the crash." Another 111 Autopilot crashes occurred when the system was inadvertently disengaged by the driver, and the remaining 145 Autopilot crashes happened under low grip conditions, such as on a wet road."

    This is Autopilot, it is certainly many revisions ago. All it does for me is point to the human and environmental variables at play.
     
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