How climate change denialism works

First of all ,global warming is a fact ,anthropogenic global warming is a fact as well but it may be insignificant.

Theres an equal amount of denial coming from the alarmists.
If you really dont want to consider any facts that go against your worldview,that would be in denial.

Society holds scientists with utmost esteem.
If the warmers were a religious cult,scientists would be the priests.
How does it effect scientific opinion when you throw $2 billion a year at research for 20 years?
Scientists who want jobs are going to brown nose their results.
If they find there is no cause for concern then the $2 billion dries up.

Scientists are not infallible.
Consider the scientific opinion on menopausal Hormone Replacement Therapy.
The entire scientific community was wrong for about 7 years until someone finally realized that the study they based their opinion on was flawed.

 

I base my skepticism from ice core data showing that warming is a NATURALLY occurring event and has never been caused by CO2.

 

Your (Al Gores) argument is that if we dont control AGW ,then the glaciers will melt,the oceans will rise, and weather will become erratic.
But without any AGW ,for the past 2 million years, the glaciers have melted, the oceans risen, and weather became erratic.
Its a natural process that resolves itself with the onset of the next glacial period.
It cant be stopped nor should it be stopped.
And Global Warming has never been caused by CO2.
Global warming causes a rise in CO2.

 

Since this is a related discussion...

How about this one?

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Then again, anything sourced from the mainstream academia is likely to be dismissed by the same crowd anyway.

Cheers;

MSantos

 

The point Im making is about the future .
If the future repeats the past 2 million years,
Global warming will naturally melt glaciers and oceans will rise.
With man or without man.AGW or no AGW.
We dont need to pay Goldman Sachs to prevent something that cant be stopped.
Its like primitive people sacrificing virgins so that the Sun will come back after an eclipse.
You are wrong about the history of climate BTW,
AGW is insignificant compared to natural cycles.

 

Untrue.
Study the graph.

 

You are making yourself a perfect example of being in denial.

 

Please stop playing the Goldman Sachs card. First, there is virtually no chance that any Cap and trade bill is going to pass this gridlocked congress. Until we realize that a simple, clear/transparent carbon tax is a much simple, much more effective way of reducing emissions we are not going to make real progress.

I don't accept the notion that it can't be stopped. It is clear that humans have an significant effect, and the solutions lie with humans!

 

I'm just curious, how does NOAA know what the temperature of the ice core was 400,000 years ago?

 

I believe they use Oxygen isotope ratios.

 

these threads are so fruitless. we all drive prii, we all care about the environment. we all do everything we can to reduce our carbon footprint. what does it matter if we believe/accept the science or not?

 

This is a long lecture, nearly an hour long, but well worth watching. Although the science is not complete, there is a very clear picture that CO2 is fundamental to climate change, and that what humans are doing is leading to drastic change.

Among other things, it is important to look at the whole picture, and not just clamp onto one seeming anomaly (as Mojo does, rejecting the role of CO2 based on one datum from ice cores).

As far as cap and trade, in my own view, cap and trade will accomplish nothing unless you set the cap so low that there's nothing to trade. The problem will be that the criminals who run government will pander to their corporate cronies by setting the caps so high as to be useless except to give financial traders something to make money on.

We need to stop burning fossil fuels. And we also need to stop raising beef. (Methane -- Every steak you eat is another nail in your grandchildrens' coffin, or even your kids' coffin, depending on how soon the shit of of climate change hits the fan of the economy.)

Save the world; Drive electric.