I have met folks who were astounded that I gave equal weight to not having any awareness of Jehovah as not having any awareness of Zeus. (Socrates would say Zews) That is, they were OK with me having no opinion of their god, but were amazed that I had no opinion of other gods as well. Do you feel Odin is more or less likely to go on Oprah than Allah is?
Odin... definitely Definitely Odin... Odin has interacted with mortals, thus Oprah could get a really big chair and get him a seat... and I think she's got enough coins to get something that could sway Odin to have an appearance on her show, cause I remember he liked stuff. allah has never interacted with a mortal other than in their heads... so he won't be using a chair... thus no show appearance. Pretty Simple...
I think an evangelical agnostic would go out of their way to convert others. I don't think you fit that mold.
Agreed, because I'm stuck somewhere in between the two. I don't think there is a god-like higher power but neither can I prove or disprove the existence of one. As such I cannot with conviction say there is no god/gods and back it up with facts. Now, on the subject of evolution or decent with modification I would more than happy to spew supporting facts.
Although not a member of that particular sect, I believe that the majority of Prius owners, or at least those subscribed to this site, are adherents of Toyotaism. This is the unthinking dedication to a car company that has promulgated lies and BS (e.g. the address database is inaccurate to assure our safety) whenever someone complains about the failure of the ABS system or the joke known as Toyota Navigation. Followers of this religion have been known to march in lock step to any and all proclamations emanating from Tokyo, ignore any faults of the product and generally worship blindly the bible known as Toyota PR.
Lilskipper, maybe it is because none of use have ever experienced these problems nor known anyone we trust to have experienced these problems in a Prius and are predisposed to thinking that such claims as unintended acceleration are lies and or human error.
Exactly. I have no love for Toyota, nor any other car company for that matter. I've owned more Honda's than any other brand, but I wouldn't call myself a Honda lover either. Most of those feelings faded away years ago, probably coinciding with my testosterone. Even so, I don't think Toyota is an Evil Corporation, anymore than any self-serving for profit entity. I know a lot of Toyota owners, and in general, they are pretty happy with their cars. On the basis of that, and my own experience, I tend to discount the anti-Toyota hysteria posted in some of these threads. Tom
Then your original description was misleading. because you gave a partial definition of a strict or classical agnostic and left out the evangelical part.
Not at all. One of my favorite pastimes is showing how most self-described Atheists are really Agnostics. I then attempt to convert them (or at least change their self-described label). Usually unsuccessfully, but not through lack of trying.
I think the poll needs to break down Christianity a bit further. That's a really broad term and there are great and fundamental differences within. I hope the above poster uses great discretion when attempting a conversion. That can be an incredibly obnoxious thing to do in any but the right circumstances.
Not me, no way. I mean it isn't like I wear the hats, the jacket, the shirt or post on a Toyota fan site, or have a signature block that says the Toyota emblem is all the warranty I need. All I did was work as a mechanic on a range of makes and notice that Toyota with hundreds of thousands of kilometres on them were needing much less repairs than other makes with much less kilometres on them. I started driving Toyota before that but owned Ford, Mazda, Fiat, Leyland, and Rootes Group. I have had the best run from Toyota.
Yes, me too. The Lexus I drive currently is built like a brick privy and is one of those jack of all trades/master of none cars that don't score so well with the automotive press but are a blessing to live with on a day to day basis.
And it's not just the 99.99% agnostics who have fun with that distinction. If you say 'god doesn't exist', the obvious response is to say 'prove it'. Which is putting the onus on the wrong side of the argument, I'd say, but replying "what can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof" doesn't seem to hold the weight it should. And if you say you're agnostic, some people take that as meaning you think there's still a possibility, however remote, that god might exist, and assume you're not completely lost.
Please explaing why am I an agnostic and not an atheist? In your opinion is the likelihood of the existence of God(Jesus's papa), Santa Claus, the easter bunny, and the FSM the same?
Because Atheists say "There was nothing that created the Universe." But since the Universe exists (and if you don't believe that, that's not my problem). it had to be created by SOMETHING. Whether that something is The Big Bang, God, Allah, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster, we're all just using different names for the same thing. Agnostic does NOT mean "God may or may not exist" (OK, it can - and usually does mean that, but that's just a minor point). I do NOT believe whatever created the Universe cares if we eat bacon, who we sleep with, or even that we worship it. I also have no idea what happens when we die (probably nothing - the trouble is, you have to die to find out and I'm not THAT curious). On the off chance you DO believe the Universe exists, then you, my friend, are an Agnostic.