I have a 2010 model and have had this issue for the past year. When I open the drivers door I get an immediate buzzzzz sound from the engine that can last 10 to 30 seconds or so. What is this??? I believe it is somehow associated with ignition issues This last winter (in Texas) I have had to push the start button sometimes several times before the engine would startup. I brought it into the dealer and left it overnight. Of course there were no problems when they started it the next day. Anyway, I have noticed a worsening of startup problems (none in the summer) along with an increase in this buzzzzz sound. Is it just my imagination?
Could the buzz be the brake preassurization motor? It will come on when the door is opened if it needs to. When you say that you have to push the start button several times to get the engine to start, does the "ready" light come on after one push of the start button?
When the car has sat long enough for the brake accumulator pressure to dissipate, opening the driver door will fire up the pump. This should last about 10 seconds. This should have been happening even on the dealership's lot, you just may not remember it. 30 seconds is much too long.
I haven't noticed when the ready light comes on. I'll have to keep an eye on this. What happens is I push the ignition button, I think most of the dash lights come on (can't remember which because it's been a while), and the car does not start. Generally if I wait in the car for a minute or so and try to restart, it will start. I'm surprised no one else has experienced it. There's no use in going to the dealer now because it won't be an issue again until winter. I'm just worried its getting worse. I guess it's not related to that initial buzzz.... the brake pressurization motor? Don't understand these cars anymore!!
You are holding down the brake pedal while pushing power, right? On the 3rd gens (but not on the 2nd gen), I recall the power button's light either comes on or changes color while you push on the brake. If you push power w/o the holding down the brake pedal, you should cycle between IG-ON (most dash lights on), ACC and OFF modes. When you say "does not start", what happens? What are you seeing/not seeing? If the READY light comes on, you can go. It doesn't matter if you hear the engine start or not. As for the buzzing sound, is it the same sound if you repeatedly pump the brakes? You should be able to produce a buzzing motor sound by doing that, regardless of whether or not you're in READY mode. Have you run the 12 volt totally dead/flat by any chance? If so, perhaps it's now marginal because of that.
yes, i think cwerdna has it right. why are you waiting for the engine to start? did you buy this car new?
It's difficult to remember because the starting issues have not happened since maybe march. I guess I'll repost agin then. I bought the car new 2 years ago. I always hold down the brake to start. I believe the dashboard lights (not sure which ones) will come on but the car won't start. I have to push the start button again to turn the lights off. Then restart and turn it off until it "turns over" whatever that means with this car. Sometimes I wait a minute or two before trying to restart the engine. That seems to work. The buzzing sound stops after 15 to 30 seconds upon entering the car. Not necessarily while I am starting it. I just noticed the buzzz has gotten louder and longer during the past year in conjenction with the starting problems. Thought they may be related maybe not.
What do you mean by "turns over"? Are you waiting for the engine to start? If so, don't bother. Engine doesn't need to run for the car to move (as you've probably discovered long ago). The transaxle has no reverse gear either. If the READY light is on, you can shift into any "gear" and go. If the READY light isn't coming on but instead you end up in IG-ON mode w/almost all the warning lights on, press on the brake harder and press power. If that doesn't work, perhaps you have a bad or misadjusted brake light switch.
robert, no offense, but you're really confusing us. what does your car do now when you push the start button? does the engine start? does it 'turn over'? or do you just put it in drive and go? and, if so, how does this differ from when it was not 'starting'?
Sorry for the confusion. When I push the start button the car does not start. The gauges are on But if I put it into drive it will not go. If I put it in reverse, no beeping. The ready light is not on. The car has not "turned over.". I will have to try and start it again, sometimes several times in order for the ready light to come on. It does not do this in the summer, only when the weather is somewhat cold and the car is started cold. I've gotten frustrated and pressed on the break pretty hard and no luck. I hope this clarifies things. The dealer didn't seem to know what was going on and it didn't do this when they tried to start it. I'll probably bring it n over the winter. Just wondering if this is something that happens to others o r if it is a problem with my Prius.
^^^ One wild guess (but definitely not the only cause) is a dodgy 12 volt battery. When it's cold (like in the winter), its voltage will drop even further, causing weirdness. If you nav, you can try the steps at Weird stuff happening? MPGs dropping? Test The Battery | PriusChat. Do it after the car has sat overnight and tell us the values at each step. If not, do you have voltmeter? If so, measure the voltage at the terminals in the back after the car has sat overnight.
How long is long enough? Mine buzzes every time I get in the car. If I forget something in the car, I am electing to use the passenger side door to get it in order to avoid running the pump unnecessarily.
thanks robert, that makes more sense. cwerdna may be right about the battery. a lot of '10's had bad ones. also, his idea on the brake switch could also be correct. maybe the cold was affecting it. good luck!
I don't recall any discussion of figures for normal vs too long, so we have no guideline yet. Moments ago mine went only 5 seconds, after sitting overnight. But its last use yesterday was also just a door opening, not a drive, so the accumulator wasn't partially depleted by a brake pedal application. If it runs too long, I'd also check for a weak battery, which dovetails with other concerns expressed in this thread. If the car cannot sit a short time without retriggering this pump at the next door opening, then I'd suspect pressure is leaking out faster. But this is very unlikely to be a safety problem while driving because the pump can continually resupply pressure. One of my previous cars was not just leaking but actually losing power boost, but gradually enough that it remained unnoticed and unconsciously compensated for until the boost has half gone. It hadn't been very long since I last drove a car without power brakes, so the feel wasn't out of my expected norms. Federal regulations demand that power brakes still work even when the power assist completely fails. The pedal just demands a lot more muscle.
To isolate a bad brake switch, try this: Press and hold the start button for 15 seconds and see if the car enters Ready Mode. If it does, and you cannot shift out of Park, there may be an issue with the brake switch or circuit.
I wouldn't be surprised if the brake pump had to work longer due to low battery voltage, nor, if there wasn't enough power left to ready the car while the pump was running. A new battery would be a good start.