Taking Le Mickey?

California has rides closed on occasion but for the most part it is a Fun experience. I used to go every year when the kids where young. Haven't been in awhile. Maybe when grand kids come into the picture

 

Yet another colony bashing thread from his imperial highness

 

Complaining brings improvements. Sometimes.

Grumpy just wants a better Amusment park. His intentions are noble.

 

Disney needs to make a decision.
Either it is a venture they feel fully vested in both financially and emotionally....

Or they should just close it.

But to let it deteriorate to the point of complaint, hurts the companies image as a whole.

I honestly never felt opening a European "Disneyland" was a good idea.

IMO Disneyland, and Disneyworld are attractions that should bring European tourists to the United States. And if I plan a trip to France or Europe, I know I'm NOT going to Disneyland.

I know I'm thinking like and American here...and "It's a Small World" after all......but I think Disney for all it's world wide global reach and appeal is an uniquely American experience.

Disneyland "France" never felt right to me.

 

I have a Few friends in Europe and Disney is a family destination. It is much closer than Florida or California.

 

Yeah, I've always suspected that it's design was to be a "Disneyland" destination for Europeans. But I still stand with the personal opinon that Disney is an American product, best left in the USA.

If it was making a huge profit, my guess is that it wouldn't be deteriorating or being let to deteriorate.

Either make it a "Disney" class destination in Europe, or close it. That's just my personal opinion. But I know it's intention was never to entice Americans to visit from the US.

I think it would be pretty sad if you were an American in Paris and decided to go to Disneyland.

 

i always felt it would have been better in the warm climes of spain.

 

Americans are famous for exporting our Culture. No stop to that.

I remember when California Adventure (Anaheim) was under construction for a few years Disney was a wreck in California. That coupled with a few rides closed for repairs etc. made for a less than ideal situation.

With respect to France I never read Disney's side of the story. Maybe they are in the throws of a renovation or they just need Ops management to resolve issues.

I recall in my Disney Days a trip to the park including food was a little bit of money but within reason. Today with a family of four multi day trip, hotel, etc. your talking some big bucks. It is perhaps that expense that puts in the mind of the consumer that this better be a perfect park and not one flaw. I can see how the consumer should expect a perfect experience with some but not many exceptions.

 

when it first opened, i read that the french employees were having trouble 'disneying'. perhaps it never really changed.

 

Disney has a strict code about appearance and projecting the Disney Culture, squeaky clean All American look.

Today Disney in California rejects potential employees with visable tattoos, piercings, etc.

Disney reminds me of Hollywood in the 50's when the Studios controlled your appearance in public when you were under contract.

I recall reading about Disney in Anaheim under the park. Nothing to do with dress code. But under ground is an entire network of workers moving food to establishments, taking garbage out of the park, machines for the rides, workers traveling form one place to another for assignments. It is a network of underground tunnels. If you ever get a chance to get this tour it is about as fascinating as Disney itself.

Fun Facts of Magic Kingdom's Underground Complex

 

There's a difference between Disneyland and "Disney". I think Disney with their movies, cartoons have easily become an exported and recognized global entity. The "culture" has been marketed and exported.

The question becomes does France and Europe need a Disneyland? I've never felt the answer to that was Yes. Or to be more precise it's my opinion Disney has never created good enough reason for that answer to become Yes.

Maybe this will become a wake up call for Disney? Because I certainly don't think Disneyland France survives if it becomes a "B" grade weakened version of Disneyland on European soil.

I think, that to survive it must become something different from either Disneyland or Disney World. I think it needs attractions unique to itself. Something that will draw Europeans, but might even attract the American traveling to Europe.

There are a lot of tangible business reasons Euro Disney has struggled as well. Operating under debt owed for construction, and having to jump through governmental hoops to even attempt to expand.

Disney in America is excellent at selling a product and an image. The success for numerous reasons has not been matched with Euro Disney.

You're selling fun, your selling fantasy. I think those commodities can be sold all most anywhere. Could Disneyland France turn it around? Possibly, but since inception until today, Disney has shown me no real reason to believe it will happen.

This latest happening is just part of a longer story of struggle.

 

Wow.

For more culture differences, see this...

 

In Southern California if your zip code is from Southern California you pay a lower admission price. Sounds similar to France.

 

Is it just the English or is the German , Italian and Spaniard also paying a higher price?