Edmunds.com article on the endangered spare tire

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  1. bisco

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    i suppose that would work without a spare.
     
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    That's been my general experience. Tire punctures are caused by a nail or such, and most of the time they stay in the hole until I get home.
     
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    I disagree, I think it's a 'Feature', not a 'Bug'
     
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    I've had one slow leak, and one totally flat, in the 5 plus years with our 2010.
     
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    a flat tyre?
     
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    I've never had a need for any of the airbags in any cars I've been in.
     
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    or seat belts.
     
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    No, the spare

    fewer kids maybe;)
     
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    i don't see the spare as a bug. did i say or imply that?
     
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    I think about 99% of the benefit is the cost savings. Not to the buyer of course. The only ones who will really notice are the ones that need it.
     
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    And the spare is an option, or there are solutions for not having a spare on cars that don't have it. $100 to $300 is tiny compared to the $20,000 to $30,000 for the car that otherwise meets all your needs.
     
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    Reverting a 2016 sans-spare to kosher avec-spare is not trivial. The fill pieces surrounding the spare are different, and I suspect the hatch deck is a different part. It'd be an interesting exercise to go through on paper, once the parts numbers are available. I'd wager to do it right you'd be approaching a grand.
     
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    hey, don' be throwing your 'avecs' around here.:p
     
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    This is kinda interesting. From the 2016 Owners Manual (now available at Toyota Tech Info):

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    And this:

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    Maybe somewhere else in the world??
     
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    what??? is that the japanese model?
     
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    Owner's Manual, in pdf format, from the North American Tech Info site I believe. Just google "Toyota tech info". It's the first hit, and manual available in the "manual" tab. Somebody started a thread on it this morning, not my find. :)
     
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    They mighta actually reinforced the rocker panel at the scissor jack points, if this pic is accurate:

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    Third gen basically puts a couple of notches in it, to tell you where to use the scissor jack, but is in no way beefed up.
     
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    I'm guessing it's poor editorial control, these references to full size spare are for somewhere else in the world, or not applicable, period. At any rate, a bit more:

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    (the expression "15-inch tires (Type B)" doesn't appear anywhere else in the document)
     
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    :(
     
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