I've seen this about 4 times today already. The best part is Electrek's reply. Tesla self-driving smear campaign releases 'test' that fails to realize FSD never engaged | Electrek
there's so much tesla propaganda out there now, it's hard to determine what's real and what's fake. i don't think i've ever witnessed a more polarizing vehicle/company. all i can think is that it's political, and there are a lot of people frightened about their future
I don’t believe it is political. IMO it is driven by greed. Oil industries have a lot to loose. Agreed that others being afraid of the future are also part of the problem.
Surprised the fact Tesla drivers using real kids to dispute this smear campaign never came up here. Well YouTube is taking down the videos. YouTube removes video by Tesla investors using kids in FSD Beta test
Well, a prosecutor wouldn't need to prove FSD doesn't work for a child endangerment. Booster seats, seat bets, and airbags all protect a kid in a crash, but you wouldn't strap a kid in, and then drive into a barrier to prove that they do so. This isn't about safety technology. It's about adults being reckless with a kid's safety. The lightest Model 3 is over 3500 pounds. Even at just 8mph, that is a lot of force to deliver to a child's body if the FSD or driver doesn't stop in time. The kid could even just trip and hit their head if they panic at the approaching car. Then Tesla has reported over 273 crashes in which Autopilot or FSD was active. People using these systems are still running into other cars and objects on accident. Purposely testing it against a kid is not reasonable behavior. To be flippant, it's 'hold my beer' level.
People have long been showing how safe aspects of EVs are. One way they do this is to show their kid plugging in the car, or such. They do this to show how confident they are in the tech. There are probably 100’s of people that die each year while plugging in appliances or such, so is this. Child endangerment? The one case I am familiar with started with testing FSD with child size mannequin (passed), adult sized mannequin (passed), and then a child (passed). The tester was behind the wheel and in control the whole time, so even if FSD failed, there was no risk to the child. That said, I understand the reason for YouTube’s policy and would suggest YouTuber’s simply omit the segment with a real child.
What did the NHTSA say about using that number? https://www.kbb.com/car-news/tesla-has-most-automated-crashes-context/ On releasing the data, NHTSA Administrator Steven Cliff cautioned reporters, “Understanding the story that the data tell will take time.” The information, he said, “is by itself inadequate to draw conclusions regarding safety.” We are Prius and former Prius owners used to lying by omission. We should not practice that too. Bob Wilson
Which wasn't the main point of my post. The point is that resulting investigation and charges would not based on whether safety systems work, but knowingly putting a child at greater risk of harm. If the appliance or outlet was known to be of higher risk when the adult had the kid plug it in, then yes. No risk of the driver being momentarily distracted out in the public, their foot slipping, or just not being fast enough. The risk to the kid was low, but it wasn't zero. The test with the mannequins was all that was needed to disprove the OP video. If a kid had been hurt, it would have been more damaging than that video. There are plenty of videos of people, including Musk, being reckless with Autopilot and FSD. From simply leaving their hands off to wheel to playing card games and taking naps. That behavior has gotten people hurt and killed. It's why the Ca DMV scrutinized the wording on Tesla's site. If we want autonomous driving systems beyond level 2 to be available, we should not be condoning people that are reckless in the use of level 2 systems now.
Tesla metrics report a 6-8 fold reduction in accidents compared to the NHTAS metrics. It is less safe to take Autopilot away … which earlier versions have already been replaced by improved versions. Bob Wilson
A loaded gun won't fire with the safety engaged, but you don't point it at someone and try pulling the trigger. The criticism is not about Tesla's safety systems. It is about the drivers taking unneeded risks with them.
