Things I like: 5 cycle EPA testing (not yet in EPA Fueleconomy,gov) front drive disconnect (not really interested in AWD) optional 120 VAC, 15 A, 60 Hz AC output Up to 50 A charging on L2 Integration with Tesla on SuperCharger access Heat pump Low coefficient of drag in a sedan size body Body structure is not 'busy' with too many smaller pieces Shows a cutaway so I won't have to wait on Munro Hyundai is fiscally sound Not sure about modular battery versus structural No discussion of driver assistance automation (show stopper!) My 2019 Tesla Model 3 with 101,423 miles is getting 'long in the tooth.' The 220 mile EV range is OK because of the SuperCharger network growth. But the +361 mi EV range and fast DC charging is attractive. Bob Wilson
Hyundai is using a permanent magnet motor for both axles. More efficient then induction when running, but magnets apply braking force when not energized. Which is why some other AWD BEVs have poor efficiency. A clutch is an easy fix. Tesla uses induction an motor on the secondary axle to avoid that braking loss. The output widget was available to the Prius Prime in Japan. The structural battery reduces production costs, but will likely lead to higher insurance rates as repairing or replacing it is essentially impossible. I don't see the Ioniq 6 not getting Hyundai's latest ADAS. SafetySense, which isn't the one in the recent CR testing.
Yeah. @bwilson4web is better off waiting for Highway Driving Pilot (to debut on the Kia EV9) if he wants something closer to AutoPilot. HDA-II in my EV6 works well but HDP is closer to BlueCruise and SuperCruise in implementation.
I think you mean FSD. Tesla has the 3 degrees of Level 2 ADAS. Autopilot is just DCC and LKA, going by the manual.
I was debating whether I meant to say FSD but I thought AP did most of the basic L2 ADAS stuff? Do you need FSD for the car to avoid other cars if they get too close to you? (Side by side). What about lane changes? Those are the two main additions to HDA-II (and it seems like TSS-P 3.0).
Sorry I can't help mapping function to AutoPilot or FSD other than layman's impressions: FSD handles traffic lights correctly. FSD maps lanes on unpainted city streets. Neither FSD nor AutoPilot should make left turns in what passes for turn lane lines in Dixie. Autopilot uses broken Google Map speed data to initiate phantom brake events. BROKE BROKE BROKE! Bob Wilson
Autopilot is the basic stuff. The lane changing is Enhanced Autopilot. If Tesla does the first question, it isn't clear which degree you need for it. The owner's manual doesn't use the Autopilot, Enhanced Autopilot, and FSD distinctions. It covers everything under Autopilot. Since @bwilson4web has FSD, I assume that is capabilities he'll be looking for. Autopilot and Full Self-Driving Capability | Tesla Support Autopilot "Autosteer is a BETA feature." That was in the manual(it's Tesla's name for LKA). Since this a basic ability to be Level 2 assistance, I'm guessing Tesla is still calling it beta like a software company as cover to any bugs. Which is lame for something nearly every car with ADAS has some degree to this ability. Imagine Toyota calling parts of TSS beta.
Do all the latest vehicles have EAP then? See, this is when “we don’t have mode years, Teslas get hardware upgrades every week” becomes an annoyance in keeping track for those who aren’t versed in the Tesla universe.
think so? Certainly beauty is subjective but IMO it looks like a cross between Porsche & Mercedes sedan. Not so bad. Even so driving back from Nashville to N/W Montana a week ago - they completely closed 150 miles of Interstate 90 for ice & snow & high-blowing winds. Saw over 2 dozen trucks & cars jackknifed or slidden or blown off the road. Taking to side roads was a VERY bad mistake. Put yours truly WAY up $h1t Creek w/out a paddle. Discovered the hard way crossing barren South Dakota you can't necessarily high speed plow through every extra wide snow drift blown across roads. 8°f w/25 mph steady wind - before sunrise - 20 miles from nowhere had to dig out the last 6ft ... & the car started to drift to a 30° angle. So - AWD wouldn't have been enough if you're car gets high centered on a snow drift (or mud or whatever). you need more ground clearance. Low to the ground is great for drag CD and aero/performance .... but come hell & high water? We gona need to get more ground clearance from now on. Lucky to have skated a disaster! AWD ionic 6 looks great for fair weather driving - but the 7 is coming right behind it and that looks like it may fill the bill for our next plugin ride. If Hyundai really kills it with efficiency the way they've done with the ionic 6? This will be quite the Beast. .
i like that much better. never really much of a german car fan as far as looks or quality goes. there have been a few over the decades, like the 230sl i was enamoured with in college
You posted too quick. Part of Hyundai's killing it on the Ioniq 6's efficiency is the low aero drag. I'd expect the 7 around that of the 5.
No mention of Cd but the EV9 will have a WLTP rating of 529km in RWD LR form. So that’s probably 480-500km EPA and closer to 400km EPA for the AWD methinks. Possibly lower for the top model with the 21” rims. It’ll have a 99.8kWh battery. 239km in 15 mins (WLTP rating).
