Prius engine repair.

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by Cdgerdy35, Feb 27, 2024.

  1. Cdgerdy35

    Cdgerdy35 New Member

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    Hello, I was just wondering if anybody has any information on what exactly could be wrong with my car. The Toyota dealer near me since it's a total engine failure in that I need to pay $8,500 for a full engine repair. So my car has been having issues when I started up it starts to thump. This had been going on for maybe a day or two and then I was driving my car home one day and the engine light came on. The hazard light came on and it told me to park my Prius in a safe location and that there was an issue with my hybrid system. I was just wondering if anybody knew what was going on. Thanks in advance!
     
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    Yes this is standard for the two ZZ Atkinson cycle engine found in predominantly the Prius and whatever that equal is in other parts of the world It seems to be a known issue at least people that own the cars know about it funny how it doesn't show up a whole lot in the little Lexus equivalent CT 200h I think it is kind of looks like a pregnant Prius or whatever so that's where you're at I don't know what year you've got this engine is covered up through what 17 19 year that is. Maybe even on up through 20/20 or something I I can't remember but if it has 2ZZ Atkinson in it we will not be partaking in that model of vehicle pretty much.
     
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    Oh and the car is a 2013 Toyota Prius.
     
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    In the world of Toyota there's nothing else to put in there except another two z z engine Atkinson cycle made for the CVT transmission with the electric motors in it that's the only choice you got so there's always that and these engines are known for this kind of carrying on maybe it's time to move on to something less work less needing of attention like a generation too You don't have to do anything to those things hardly they just work and when they don't you can grab another one for very inexpensive generally speaking One generation 3 the money I spend in it I can have four generation twos and almost near perfect condition
     
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    how many miles on her? it's probably a blown head gasket
     
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    Toyota dealers are warranty specialists, not affordable mechanics to fix cars that are no longer under warranty. They aren't qualified to work on an 11 years old Prius in an affordable way.

    But you can put a used Gen 4 engine ($1800) in your Gen3 Prius in your driveway. There's a mobile mechanic on here who will do that for you for $1500 in a day.

    Best of all the Gen4 engine doesn't have all the failure points that the imbeciles who designed the Gen3 created.
     
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    99% your dealer is correct, it needs an engine. A dealer will install a new short block with new pistons, rings, crankshaft and bearings. They will have the existing head rebuilt or replaced and completely clean or replace the rest of the bolt on parts. You end up with the best replacement engine which will also have a warranty.

    These cars have bad pistons and rings. Worse case failure is a warped block or holes in the block.

    Assuming a good block (which is typical) less expensive repairs are possible. Lower cost options are typically executed by an independent shop.

    First and almost as good is a rebuilt engine where your short block gets new pistons and rings with the rest rebuilt or checked. Usually a one year warranty installed for perhaps $4500-$5000. If your shop can’t rebuild at a high level, there are companies who will ship you one and your shop swaps out your bolt on parts.

    Second is a head gasket job with a rebuilt head. Less warranty but $2500 or less. More risk and the rings are not changed.

    Third is a used engine with no updates. More risk for slightly less money. It could fail again in the same manner. It could be bad to begin with. If I was going used, I would want a gen3 in a gen3 for less fundamental complications. Service from Toyota or anyone remains standard.

    Gen4 in a gen3 has some modifications required along with reusing your intake and egr in most cases. The Oklahoma guy is unlikely to go to Ohio unless you pay way more than $1500 labor. Warranty service from Oklahoma is also problematic. The resulting gen3/4 frankengine might not be allowed in a dealer shop due to its custom nature.
     
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    Do you have any of the details to get in contact with this mobile mechanic, I feel like it would be worth looking into this. I appreciate the reply.
     
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    Wow... All time record of stupidity in your post here... There's no such thing as a brand new Gen3 engine anymore, nor do they rebuild them, just used engine swaps. And tell me more about warped engine blocks? Lol, are you drunk right now? I'm not even going to read the rest of your all time stupidest most out-of-touch with reality post. Maybe consider not giving people advice because you clearly don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about. Perhaps consider going back to trolling and having nothing helpful to say? You're way more capable of that than whatever it is you just did here.

    Apologies for being rude, I'll go back to having you on my ignore list so I don't see your posts anymore. I can't handle how awful your advice is.
     
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    For me to waste time that's what I would consider it anyway fixing a generation 3 It would need to be in near mint perfect condition some bumps in the seat from a fat rear end not a problem but door panels in the front caving in and things like that aren't really fixable they happen to every one of these cars just depends when some people never put their arm on an armrest and a door and then 11 years later when the wife gets in the car and does Bam and that really ticks me off there's no reason for anything like that to be going on I could see the fake material peeling off the armrest or something like that but to cave in no sir not having it that really chapped my rear end when I saw that in the generation 3 door panels the general thinness of the whole car the front fenders they're like made out of tin foil You can't even burp near the car without something caving in or folding up or bending a generation 3 is not a lasting proposition most cars generally aren't but the generation 3 and all of this stuff made after 2010 notice that it's longevity is almost non-existent I know 2009 2008 whatever it is Yaris that will be around a long time The Gen 3s will all be crushed and gone or they'll be a few in people's garages because that's how some people are but to fix this I've got to know I'll be able to have the car another 5 years and it's highly likely that in three I'll be back to the same point again blowed head gasket so on so that there to me is a failure hell I have two TC 1600 hemi head Toyota motors that are still running today from the '80s and what have you. That was the engine of Corolla from oh I don't know somewhere around 74 all the way up through 85. Stuff was built like tanks.