Featured Federal EV fees

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by Trollbait, Apr 29, 2025.

  1. BiomedO1

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    Car owners dialing back their odometers are rare, but it does happen. If you sell your car to a professional dealership, they'll usually run a Carfax or equivalent, before making an offer on the car. If your the original owner of the car since new, It'll be much more difficult to determine a roll-back; unless some service facility entered the odometer mileage. I'm seeing a lot more blank odometer readings from service facilities. You know they have those number, otherwise how do they enforce warranties on the work they performed?
    IMHO; taxes on fuel usage; by the gallon is the fairest way of doing this. Since all EV's are equipped with ECUs; they can easily transmit annual mileage to DMV and pay accordingly or readings can be taken on annual safety or service checks. Larger heavier commercial automobiles that do the majority of the damage to the roads are usually less fuel efficient; therefore burn more petroleum products. An incentive to modernize and get more fuel efficient. Cyber tractor trailer rigs would be in consistent contact with home base; so the EV charge by miles setup would also work here with an add-on for payload - heavier the rig, more damage to the road. Truck scales and power band usage may be used to filter out cheaters.

    Just my 2-cents on the matter.....
     
    #41 BiomedO1, May 6, 2025 at 10:10 AM
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  2. Trollbait

    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    No one is against paying for roads. They are against the unfairness of flat rates in relation to per gallon rates.

    Take these proposed federal rates. $200 for the EV is equal to 1087 gallons of gas at the federal 18.4 cent tax. With 15k annual miles, that would be a 13.8mpg car. They are paying 2 to 3 times the amount an equivalent ICE model is in gas tax; more if driven less miles.

    Your $600 proposal is the same as raising that 18.4 cent per gallon tax to $1.

    Or you just move all cars to a per mile rate. Then eliminate the fuel tax, or base them on another metric. Make it more comparable to what EV owners are paying on electric taxes to charge, use the fuel taxes to cover out of state vehicle use of roads, keep them up to reduce fossil fuel use, etc.
     
  3. bwilson4web

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    Acknowledging the problem of getting the mileage, I would go by tire count, 2-18. That would also cover trailers.

    Weight would be nice but it would be a 'heavy lift' for most DMV clerks and departments.

    Bob Wilson