Disabling front cross traffic alert

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  1. Prodigyplace

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    They could move away from the visibility reducing side rear windows so the driver could actually LOOK to see if the way is clear. I had a salesman say, with a straight face, that Toyota was more focussed on safety than visibility. Visibility MAKES driving the car safer!
     
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    I would assert that a seatbelt is a bona fide and unambiguous safety device. Before airbags, seatbelts could be adjusted tight enough to keep you in place in your seat during recreational driving.

    If you drive a 3200 pound Prius in a world swimming with 5000 pound SUVs, using the belt is a good idea.

    Whether a cross traffic alert that interferes with driver decisions is a real safety device or even a good idea is much less clear.

    Sometimes my car wants to have a say about where the car is steered, but at least I can still turn the wheel over the car's suggestion. A car that slams on the brakes because it misreads a parked car as cross traffic seems as if it could cause an accident.

    All the beeps and chimes seem like a poor idea. They used to bother me, but now I ignore them all, all the time. Even the blaring continuous tone when I park within a foot of something no longer phases me.

    And let a hapless driver be crushed if his car flips?

    The old Acura Integras had a low belt line and low dash with thin A pillars and about as much power as a Gen 4 Prius. Excellent efficiency, handling and visibility were a part of its magic formula.
     
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    Driver attentiveness cannot be mandated. one reason I bought my 2008 Corolla was because I saw the high beltline that made it over here in 2010. It had great visibility and was never flipped before I recently traded it in.
     
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    FCTA does not have any control input, so your pondering is hypothetical, not about the function discussed in this thread. The "assist" in the thread title is an error - it's "Front Crossing Traffic Alert".

    There are other functions that can slam on the brakes, but they're not triggered as easily as a mere alert.
     
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    Yes, you are correct, it is indeed "alert".

    I wanted to correct my original post title, but the forum software does not appear to allow that?
     
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    Perhaps @Tideland Prius can correct the title.to "front cross traffic alert"
     
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    I admit, after about 50+ years of driving without ever causing an accident, being injured is not high on my list. I'll trust the airbags to keep me alive in the rare instance of an accident.
     
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    So, in conclusion, on the gen5, it is possible to permanently disable the audio seat belt chime on all of the seats, but it is not possible to permanently disable the FCTA warning?

    Or, has anyone had any luck? Because the overly sensitive FCTA system is decreasing my safety on nearly every drive l do.
     
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    How is the FCTA decreasing your safety?
    *scratching my head*
     
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    When l am nosing out into rapidly moving traffic and very carefully looking in all directions, the idiotic audio warning goes off, which then forces me to move my attention from the outside of the car (where it should be) to the inside of the car to see what in the bloody hell is going on. Then l see that it is another spurious FCTA warning and then l return my attention to the situation outside of the car.

    The FCTA system forces me to do this every time, and this stupid unnecessary distraction is terrible for situational awareness and safety.

    It is a case of 'the boy who cried wolf': constant unneeded spurious warnings decrease, not increase, safety.
     
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    In contrast, l highly value the REAR cross traffic alert, as it alerts me to traffic that is difficult or impossible to see while sitting in the driver's seat. So the RCTA improves safety, unlike the FCTA.
     
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    It is annoying and usually useless. When making a turn, any time I take my foot off the brake it goes off when I know I an going behind that vehicle.Since november, I have NEVER found FCTA useful. In fact, in one parking lot situation it did not warn when it should have.
     
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    Both have saved me a collision many times.
     
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    I guess that is good to know.

    But then, your previous car without FCTA, did you have many front collisions in that car?
     
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    I never knew how many I missed due to luck, apparently.
     
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    Well, l have had zero close calls in older cars. And zero close calls due to my actions/inactions in the gen5. But l have had 2 close calls entirely due to the spurious FCTA alerts that come at the stupidest times.

    Back on topic, is it confirmed that permanently disabling the FCTA is impossible? Anyone know?
     
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    Zero close calls? You are truly blessed.
     
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    I used to think that also, but the FCTA proved me wrong.
     
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    Nah, l just look in all directions before l pull into traffic. Works great.
     
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