I replaced my Bridgestone Ecopia 422 Plus with the Accelera Eco Plush on my 2013 Prius. Mileage has gone down from 52-53 to 42-43. At first, I thought the tires just needed to be worn in but after more than 5K miles, I'm resigned to the new normal. Gas is purchased at a Costco in LA, and there are no other changes to driving habits. It doesn't even feel noticeably different, aside from the surge of anger when I see my mileage. The Ecopia's cost me ~$100 each at Sears in 2018. This time, the Acceleras were $380 for the set vs upwards of $600 for the Ecopia's. A smart man once said to never go cheap on anything that comes between you and the earth - shoes, socks, tires. I am not a smart man.
What prevents you from buying new Bridgestone Ecopia and selling old tires Accelera Eco Plush? When they are not too worn out they can be sold at a small loss.
City-dweller brain here. I didn't think of that. Have you sold tires before? Are the usual craigslist/eBay options best? Do shops buy them back?
I just bought 4 of these: Hankook Kinergy PT (H737) 195/65/15 91H So far, the mpg is the same, maybe slightly better? Haven't driven enough to be certain. Certainly didn't lose any. Bonus: VERY Quite! Very Smooth, and a softer ride. I am VERY happy with them so far! If they last the 90,000 miles warranty, I'll really be happy! I have Hankook H267 I think they were. Handle well, not super noisey, decent mpg, but didn't last 40,000 miles....
$100.57 each. Plus tax etc..... I always get lifetime balance&rotation, and road hazard. It was about $500 for all 4.
Depends on the cost of a gallon of gas in your state. At 2.2 a gallon, you can fill up 100 gallons and drive 4,200 miles for the difference in the cost of a set of tires. At 3.6 a gallon, you can fill up 61 gallons and drive 2,562 miles for the difference in the cost of a set of tires. You can calculate the efficiency over the life of the tires, say 40,000 miles. For MPG 52 you will need 769 gallons, for MPG 42 you need to fill up 952 gallons. The difference is 183 gallons, which will cost clearly more than $220 from the difference in the initial cost of the tires. Gasoline in any state is more expensive.
In commiefornia, it’s the most expensive. The gas tax revenue is to fix the roads and bridges. At the curerent gas tax rate, we should have have gold plated roads and bridges by next year.
At my current driving profile I think it'd take about a year to swallow the cost of buying good vs not-great tires. And I plan to keep a set - and the car - a lot longer than that. Maybe I'll think about selling them.
OK, not a unique idea, but OK, but nation-wide, right? We can't have California be the only place with modern and SAFE roads and bridges, right? So, how do we implement your 'not unique' idea? Yearly ID / OD checks at the DMV? Every street vehicle in the country gets an OBD to Cell dongle? What's you best idea? Have you ever been to California? It's a great state and was the national leader in cleaning up the air and the nation followed its lead. The nation is now cleaner because of it ! Thank you California !!
Good questions. I live in Ca, and last month the politicians here said to bring in 9 cents per miles for all CA drivers. The program was piloted in May 2024, all volunteers piloted the program was given an $100 stipend. Pete booty judge was asked in the 2019 democratic presidential debate by the debate moderator, what he would do to raise money for the nation when he becomes president. He said he would implement an 8 cents per miles tax. Unsuprisely he was appointed as secretary of transportation. And know you know the rest of the story. Ask the CA politicians how they will track the miles driven, I am the just messenger muahaha
Is the tax paid by the driver before or after the trip? You never know if your new $600 tires will be flat because of a nail that you hit five miles down the road and who you will then have to claim for that nail.
After. CA politicians realized that they pushed soo hard on EV on us here so now there’s too many EVs here, the gas tax won’t bring enough revenue to the state so they’re thinking about putting together a bill to pass the 9 cents a mile driven tax, the original 8 cents won’t bring in enough.
This was to be expected. No one thinks about the consequences of a global transition to electric transport in a state or country. When gasoline cars are eaten, electric cars will start gnawing. Cheap cheese is only in a mousetrap.
