AC discharge hose Part number 8870347030

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  1. ColoradoCrow

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    Hi all. Wife was taking a trip and the fan rubbed a hole in the above hose. I assume this discharged and evacuated the Entire AC system since the AC no longer works. Weekend trip. 100 degrees in the car. Summer in Kansas brutal. She is 2 hours from home. I’m on a plane and can’t help. Tires plus quoted her $600 to repair it.
    I’m sure this is less that the stealership. I can’t work on AC systems. I gather this is a needed service work. I’m trying to get it scheduled ASAP. Thoughts? Price? Part? Job difficulty? Chap, RJ, this is not a basic home mechanic job. Correct?
     

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    Just replaced one the other day . Very quick need the hose clamp tool 8 bux. I did on side of road purged and left cold . I may vacuum n down later on . But I'm ice cold . Hose already in car in package 44 bux in a bag .had o rings pre installed make sure they're not in cars fittings
     
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    you can buy this hose in RockAuto for $16 to $44 plus shipping/tax. You can replace it yourself easily and have a shop vacuum (remove moisture) and charge with r143a. If you have a vacuum pump and a manifold gauge you can do it yourself, AC work is not rocket science. For better performance have the drier in the condenser replaced if it was left leaking for a long time.
     
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    Thanks all. I appreciate the help. The front end was pushed in a minor wreck. I guess the fan was rubbing on the old hose and wore a hole in it. I may have to have it pulled back out a bit.
     
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    Throw cable around upper support roll car backwards and bounce the support into place . Replace hose . Ice cold purge add gas to lo side holding hi side Schrader in gas comes let go. The air was pushed out as the gas came to you .
     
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    Just heard from the Tires Plus. They told my wife that the AC Compressor is BAD. $550 for a new one from Olathe Toyota. This is the second Tires Plus We have been too. I thought these units ran forever? Not so much? I know they are electronic Desco units which are different. My wife thinks they are taking advantage of her. They want her to go down and see for herself. I'm out of town for 9 days?
    If the return hose got a hole and leaked the HFC134 out and she kept running the compressor would it seize up and ruin it? I can probably replace the compressor and hose myself it sounds like and then have it filled. Not sure on pricing yet. I'm waiting for the shop to call me back.
    What would you do?
     
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    No it would actually stop running as soon as the gas ran out it can't continue to run there's a pressure switch I guess it's possible in some weird form of something another but I honestly don't think so soon as no pressure kinda kills circuit like cutting clutch on regular compressor. And these usually do run forever . I'm at 400k on two
     
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    I am not sure a Tire place is qualified to work on an inverter driven variable speed electric driven compressor system.

    Most cars are completely different with mechanically driven compressors and clutches.

    Have they actually performed work on it such that she is committed to pay regardless of replacing the compressor or not?

    If not I would find a qualified ac shop that has experience with this kind of system.
     
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    I'd rather do it myself because some shops are clueless about hybrid ac systems. I recently replaced a friends Prius AC compressor more than a month ago. Compressor is no longer working, asked him about the history of repairs and I think he has it replaced from a local shop 2+ years ago, it's relatively new and I suspect the shop put in PAG oil shortening it's life. He bought a $50 used compressor in ebay, 2 cans of R134a from Walmart and Hybrid oil (not PAG) For around $100 AC is back.

    The compressor will not run if the AC pressure is low and there will be a code that indicates that. Worst thing that could happen is that if it grenaded inside (just like my Camry Hybrid) and that will be expensive to clean out (replace) parts.

    The AC system on the hybrid is not any different from the conventional ICE ones, best thing is that it's not belt driven (early Ford Escape Hybrid has belt driven AC compressor) Just need to know that they have a different oil and the rest are the same (pressure readings)
     
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    RJ I agree with you completely..... For sure. I'm not having them do the work.
    I ordered a new condenser, oil and both supply hoses and o rings kit from Rock Auto.
    I'll repair it myself next week when I am off. Tires Plus wanted $1,015 to do the work. Toyota dealership was $1,345.00
    I spent $250 in parts. Next step will be figuring out how to flush and add the HFC 134 to the low pressure side. I've watched videos.. Seems the Low side is on the Drivers side. Takes about 2 cans...and needs to be 33 psi.(while running the system) I assume once that is sucked into the system it gets sent over to the High pressure side which I should see the results in the High pressure side window glass. I got the hybrid oil needed and know I need to add 1.4 oz to the bottom of the condenser before install..plus lube the o-rings before tightening.
    I'm in Canada.....fitting I should ask Mendel for a link to the toyota repair PDF..;) Please post here Mendel if you can.
    I have 6 days off in a row so I'm looking to get this done next week. Will keep you posted. Tom I will try your method for pulling the lower condenser body mount back straight..might use a block of wood and a hammer. I've never done AC Work before. This should be interesting.
     
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    HighMiles... What HFC 134 cans recharge kit...would you recommend? Looks like a Pro version is $54.00 on WalMart 18 oz. I assume that would be enough? They all seem to have leak sealer added...is that the norm?
     
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    need to do it by weight instead of pressure/ambient air temp. It takes 16oz or 1lb or 1 1/4 can (12 oz) Overcharging or undercharging will not give good results. If by pressure/ambient air, it should be around 30 low and 170 high (pressures depends on temperature) on most Prius.
     
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    I think the 18oz with the low pressure hose adapter will be ok but I'd look for non leak sealer. The $10 12oz cans are also perfect (they used to be $5.. inflation)
     
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    Yes it's real nice to have scales and so far in 50 yrs I've not broke down and bought it used to all be done this way no scales . I do my houses too never an issue . My AC all of em usually make 15 yrs plus if no one touches . The cars have top offs every other season . Most all the 2 are on orig compressors . I replaced 1 on gen3 . The 2 not. You need determine if it blew and threw shards . Should be easy to see.
     
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    2 cans and oil you will not finish 2 can . No need kits.
     
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    HIghMIles...thanks Ill go with the super tech 12 oz cans..I'll get 2..and watch the pressure while parked inside the garage to keep the temp the same..Also I have seen that you are supposed to run the system recirc but keep all the windows down....on an empty system add one can and wait for 10 minutes while it runs.....then let it sit for 20 mins check the pressure...add a bit more if needed. How many oz's is the OEM Toyota Recommended weight capacity? 18oz?...........
     
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    it will be cool with 1 can but still short 4 oz, there is a sticker on the hood with refrigerant type and capacity. I believe it's 1 lb (16 oz) +- something. You can just eyeball the 2nd can as a top off (just 1/3 of the 12oz is needed)
     
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    my 2 cents, have a dealership look at it.
     

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    Three things

    1. Replacing the condenser (in front of the radiator) or the compressor?

    2. The refrigerant should have no sealer or oil in it.

    3. It is highly recommended to vacuum out the system anytime the system has been opened prior to adding refrigerant. That requires a vacuum pump and a manifold gauge set.

    There are other steps an ac shop would recommend like replacing the dryer but doing a good vacuum and properly filling with refrigerant without introducing air is fundamental after opening the system.
     
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    1. Replacing the condenser. And both supply hoses.
    2. Refrigerant will have no sealer oil in it.
    3. I'm leaning on installing the system components and then taking it to an AC place to have it filled.
    4. It is my understanding that the cylinder on the right side of the Condenser IS the dryer and it is not a separate system.
    5. depending on the condition of the Radiator. I might replace it as well if I have everything apart.