If passed in the Senate, EV and hybrid ownership may get a little more expensive

You get what you voted for.

 

Nearly half of the people who voted are getting what they voted for.

 

From Google:

Road repair money comes from federal and state funding. Federal funding comes from the Federal Highway Administration’s Highway Trust Fund, which is funded by federal gasoline and diesel taxes. State funding typically comes from state fuel taxes, vehicle registration fees, income taxes and supplemental appropriations from the Legislature. The Federal share for the repair of Federal roads is 100 percent under the ERFO Program, which is funded from the Highway Trust Fund and the General Funds through the Emergency Relief Program for Federal-aid Highways.

I pay an extra $100 state fee every year for having a hybrid. I save way more than that in fuel cost. (14k miles at 48mpg <300 gallons vs 14k miles at 23 mpg >600 gallons in previous vehicle) If highway and road repair funds come from fuel taxes, where do you suppose those funds should come from if people aren't buying fuel? Surely you agree that we should all pay our fair share, right? Maybe a yearly fee based on miles driven? I'm sure no one would cheat on that. Hard to cheat on a fuel pump or registration, except for those that drive unregistered and uninsured...

 

Hybrid fees are unconstitutional in direct violation of the equal protection clause of the constitution.

Someone with an insight already forced their state to provide a refund form to get back his hybrid fee because the state didn’t want to allow the suit to go to court as they knew it would get tossed.

now anyone there pays the hybrid fee, sends in the form and gets a refund

 

Discussion also here Federal EV fees | PriusChat
Though that has wandered since the news reported and the bill vote.

Rather some cheating on a per mile tax than have different methods for the various car types. Methods that overcharge some compared to others in many states.

Does your state apply that hybrid fee to mild hybrids like Jeeps and Rams?

 

I'm not worried.....with gas prices, already coming down we should see it back down to closer to $2 than $3 a gallon soon. And the same for our crazy-high electrical bills. They are making it much easier and faster to bring nuclear power on-line which is, by far, the cheapest and cleanest electricity-makers out there.

Colorado has some of the craziest vehicle registration fees in the country....if you buy a new car for $60,000, expect to pay an "owner's tax" of $1,071 when you register the car just to get the plates. Then, a year later, you pay the same owner's tax but it does go down, but not a lot. It's just a crazy rip-off and we have some of the worst roads in the nation. (You pay the sales tax, state and local just to buy the car, then get hammered again when you go to the DMV to register.)

I miss Texas....I remember paying a flat fee of $30 for registering vehicles....no matter how old or new they were.

 

i won't capitulate. i'll pay the fee, and not let the bozo's drive me back to fossil fuels.

 

I haven't had to pay to renew my tags yet on my Tesla. They were rolled into the tax I paid on the car when I bought it.
.091 percent of the sales price. So $3,276.00. That was a fun check to write. I did have to pay a $400 EV state fee.
I think Kansas goes by weight of the car on annual tag renewal.... the 08 Prius was $66 the 2014 Mercedes was $400 I'll find out in October on the the Tesla and report back.

 

Churchill said that democracy is the worst system on earth,
except for all the others. You don't get to opt out, just because you didn't vote for it.

 

Driving through missouri, arkansas, Tennessee right now - & even DIESEL is already in the High $2.90s in some places.

..... and the larger majority that voted for what they got - are more than happy with what they got. Comes from not listening to fake news.. If you got to make one side or the other happy, best to be the majority.

 

There is no majority that voted for what they got. Both the presidential and the house elections were decided by pluralities: 49.80% and 49.75%, respectively. So nearly, but not quite, half of voters are getting what they voted for.

More than half of voters voted for something else ... but split their votes among different something elses, so there was no majority on that side either.

 

Ohio has had the fee for several years to compensate for lost gas tax revenue.

 

22% of the population voted in the current administration
77m R
341m - 348m estimated population

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If the electoral system were that broken, there would have been a lot more signs.
There are no credible ones that I've seen.

 

Does that mean you are questioning some or any of the numbers in the above posts?

If so, which ones, and why? Are there others you have seen somewhere?

 

I don't need specifics to question a claim, much less an outlandish one.

 

So for the rest of us dummies, which one were you calling outlandish?

 

The ones that claimed the election was rigged.