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  1. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    ^ In my limited experience (bought my first home relatively late in life) not very many people are bragging about how their rent goes down after their landlords do a 5-figure 'green makeover' on their properties.
    Or?
    ANYTIME.

    However (comma!!!!!!!!)
    Let's pretend for a moment that this occurs.
    EITHER WAY, the subsidies are a direct government payment aimed at wealthier taxpayers who already HAVE a house.

    An Aside:
    I was quasi-hoping that the BBB would not be passed in the lower house, and now I MIGHT find myself hoping that it completely implodes - depending on how accurate some of my sources are.
    From what I'm hearing, if no bill is passed then....yeah. I get shanked by several thousand dollars in new (old) taxes.

    HOWEVER (comma!!!!)
    I was originally thinking that the SALT caps would go away - but instead they would stay at 10K????
    Izat right????
    If so then we would not be transferring wealth to horribly run states at 4x that rate - which would make it worthwhile.
    Maybe someone better informed might weigh in on that specific detail.

    Since the leftists like to compete with the far right on who can tell the biggest lies - I am a little curios about the claim that the BBB would add 4 trillion to the debt bomb over the next 10 years - but NOT passing it will prevent additional debt.

    -really ;)
     
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  2. ChapmanF

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    Different lease agreements have different provisions for how utilities get paid. I rented in one place where the heating cost was rolled into the rent I paid (it was a big building with a single central boiler). But I was frequently in rentals where I paid my rent to the landlord and also the gas and electric bills came to me directly from the utilities. I don't think that's a totally unusual situation.
     
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    mikefocke Prius v Three 2012, Avalon 2011

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    Landlords are only going to put in efficient utilities and appliances when it benefits them, not the renter. They aren't in the business to be a charity. They are in it for the tax breaks and the profits.
     
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    Salt Taxes are somewhat complicated and highly Political.

    Here is an article that details them in a non-biased nonpolitical way. It is from Investopedia

    State and Local Tax (SALT): Definition and How It's Deducted
    "The SALT deduction effectively rewarded their residents at the federal level for paying certain taxes at the state and local levels and that reward was now limited. "

    High Tax States were using SALT to allow residents to deduct their exorbitant taxes to decrease their Federal Tax Liability and force other states to fund the Federal Government.

    As you can imaging when the SALT Deductions were cut and, in some cases, went away the high tax states lost their mind. Chuck Schumer nearly went into conniptions closely followed by Nancy Pelosi's Hysteria.

    Right on cue these states ran to the Supreme Court crying their eyes out but ultimately lost:
    "Four states filed a federal lawsuit charging that the $10,000 limit was unconstitutional: Connecticut, Maryland, New Jersey, and New York. The U.S. Supreme Court ultimately ruled otherwise in 2021"
     
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    Remind me which were the states with the more positive and more negative net balance of federal government payments?
     
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  6. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Using real numbers?
    OH PLEASE!!!!
    You go first.....:ROFLMAO:

    Personally I think that it's a disgusting "metric" because it presumes that the federal government's role is to confiscate a certain (majority, in some cases) portion of ALL individual assets and dole them BACK out as they see fit.
    SALT deductions, and some Medicaid programmes, to say nothing of EVangelism beautifully illuminate the fallacy of this line of arguments....
     
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    When Christ told a man that he needed to love his neighbor, the man asked, "who is my neighbor?" Jesus replied with the parable of the good Samaritan, which wasn't about doing the obvious and helping someone in distress, but rather, he used a Samaritan as an example because Samaritans were outsiders, the remnants of the Assyrian invasion of the northern tribes of Isreal, and who didn't follow the law and had different beliefs than the Jews, for which reason the majority of Jews hated the Samaritans and wanted them off of their land.
     
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    He stood everything on its head
     
  9. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Good points, but the Samaritan came across one person who was robbed, beaten, and left naked in a ditch.
    Equating that to allowing universal border lawlessness cheapens the argument for both sides.

    Two things can actually be true at once, even in our divided culture.
    One of the MAIN reasons Trump was elected was immigration run amok.
    It's an 80/20 issue - although those same 80% would mostly agree that we need a path to citizenship for the illegal aliens who have integrated themselves into our society by working (even if it's under the table) raising their families etc...etc...
    In other words, following the rules of this nation within reason even if they broke the law by trespassing to get here.
    The Trump administration would do well to not worry about numbers and just go after the felons, human traffickers, drug peddlers, etc.
    The percentage of illegals in those categories aren't as big as the 'pubs say they are, but they ain't zero.
    You know....
    Like when South American gangs only take over ONE apartment building in a crime infested city instead of a whole block. ;)
    That's why you cannot visit very many watering holes in America without signs in the restrooms in Spanish advising non-natives about our laws against modern slavery and other more grisly forms of 'trafficking in persons.'
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Where did he land and where is he NOW?
     
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    Basically; find one extreme case and impute the entire group with the same deplorable situation.
     
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    ICE Boston Arrests Illegal Migrant Accused of Child Rape After Detainer Request 'Ignored' - Newsweek

    "Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers arrested an illegal immigrant accused of six child rape offenses in Massachusetts last week—after their request to local law enforcement to hand him over on release was ignored."

    Murder of Rachel Morin sparks outrage among Maryland leaders over immigration policies - CBS Baltimore
    "The murder of Maryland mom Rachel Morin has raised concerns about U.S. immigration policies after law enforcement said the suspect in her killing, 23-year-old Victor Hernandez Martinez, crossed into the country illegally from El Salvador."

    HHRG-118-JU08-20230913-SD003.pdf
    "How Porous Borders Fuel Human Trafficking in the United States"

    Illegal immigrant arrested at Massachusetts shelter with gun, alleged fentanyl stash, was not part of state program, Gov. Healey says
    "An undocumented immigrant who was arrested at a state-run shelter in Revere last month allegedly with an AR-15 and $1 million worth of fentanyl was not officially part of the emergency assistance program but was staying with someone who was, Gov. Maura Healey said Tuesday"

    Cops To Clear Apartments 'Overrun' With Venezuelan Gangs - Newsweek
    "Police in Colorado are set to clear an apartment complex that was "overrun" with Venezuelan gangs after the mayor said he would request an emergency court order to free the buildings of organized criminal activity."

    And could go on for the rest of the day post stories like this and the human tragedies involved.


    Controlled borders with proper immigration and safeguards = very good

    Uncontrolled illegal immigrant entry by anyone and everyone + citizenship given out like popcorn as was the case in the last 4 years = very bad.

    What happened in Jan 2021 to cause the explosion of border encounters?
    Who was the Border Czar in charge of controlling this?


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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Yet the deportation rate is still lower than Obama's, and he did them with due process.
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    If crossings have dropped, we can take the time to follow the law with those in country.
     
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    tastes like chicken?