Diagnosing Coolant Burning

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Tyler Pryjda, Jul 18, 2025 at 12:45 AM.

  1. Tyler Pryjda

    Tyler Pryjda New Member

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    Starting from the beginning, I bought this Prius at ~125 miles with a p0420 code.
    A new Hybrid battery was installed just before I bought it, and a converter may have been replaced at some point as well.

    Eventually, I got curious to the p0420, and started digging.

    My scanner reports regular voltages for the converter, although relatively warm operating temperatures. Cat and cylinder cleaner were run through to clean things out. I have reason to believe the cat is fine, and the sensors are fowled or detecting strange behavior.

    I noticed that on the car fax, the vehicle has oil changes only every 25k miles at a dealership. Perhaps there were others, not at dealerships, but, I believe poor oil changes were consistent in the first 125k.

    So, this brings us to the ‘Coolant Burn Event’

    Coolant Burn Event
    This vehicle frequents Pennsylvania, climbing and descending mountains frequently. Upon a descent, preceded by a slowly worsening exhaust smell over weeks, coolant began to burn and exit the exhaust. Sluggish acceleration and other issues were noted but seemed to self remedy, and when looking at the scanner, a high knock correction value was noted and the freeze frame for the event notes lean conditions.

    When this occurred, coolant was added with gasket sealant and an oil top off with cat cleaner.

    Oil and coolant are not mixing, no [consistent] misfires fuel trim self corrects and is running stoichiometric.

    So what’s happening here?

    Simplified symptoms:
    • Sluggish acceleration on steep inclines
    • Power loss
    • Coolant burn on steep descents
    • Lowered mpg
    • P0420

    My running theory
    Oil maintenance was neglected for far too long, too regularly, creating sludge and carbon deposits within the cylinders, crankcase, PCV valve, EGR passages, and converter. These deposits created pressure on the intake gasket via clogging the PCV, which led to a leak of coolant through the intake manifold gasket. This event occurs regularly under high vacuum, during descents, and oil is not contaminated, which seems to point towards coolant entering the intake gasket rather than the head gasket.


    The car has a brand new actuator, upgraded combo meter, new hybrid battery, and I believe a somewhat new converter.


    At this point, I would like to replace the pcv valve, intake gasket, spark plugs, and drain/clean oil and coolant systems.

    my questions are, firstly, does this appear to be a sound assessment? I am going to investigate tomorrow to see, but, I was having a hard time finding information about replacing the intake gasket on the gen 2. I have done some repairs before, but am not intuitive enough to know how to find this part myself, nor the torque specs or bolt ordering, least of all best practices.

    I was hoping for some guidance, I have access to a mechanic for labor if anything exceeds me, but wanted to know if I was on the right track and where to go from here for instructions on the intake gasket.

    thanks everyone!
     
  2. T1 Terry

    T1 Terry Active Member

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    First, I'd invest the few $$ on a borescope that will plug into your phone. Pull the spark plugs and look at the piston crowns, if they are clean, water is entering the combustion chambers, if they have carbon deposits, then you can rule out the intake manifold gasket being the problem and look at other possible problems.

    Even if the pistons are clean, meaning water is entering the cycles, is it all of them, or only 1 or 2 cyls that are effected.

    Could the water be entering through the EGR cooler? I'm just throwing that one out there, we don't have EGR coolers on the Gen 2 Prius over here, so I have zero experience with them, nor do I ever want to experience such a backward technology response to a pollution problem, there are far better methods .... but that is a bit like bolting the gate after the horse has bolted ...... electric vehicles don't suffer this sort of nonsense ;):whistle: You could always dump the ICE out of it and covert the transmission to full EV (y)

    T1 Terry
     
  3. dolj

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    There is no EGR system in any market on the Gen 2, so no need to worry about that.
     
  4. Leadfoot J. McCoalroller

    Leadfoot J. McCoalroller Senior Member

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    20 year old radiator + use of gasket sealant often = very little reserve cooling capacity, potentially insufficient vs. mountain climbing. Engine could well be overheating or near-overheating. High temps will increase detonation potential.

    I'd be checking the cooling system, not necessarily trusting onboard coolant temp sensors.
     
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    You bought it at 125k and have changed lots of parts with more scheduled.

    We don't know the current mileage.

    We don't know if it burns oil which is common on these cars as they age.

    We don't know why you think it has a changed "converter" or if you are talking about the "inverter converter" or the catalytic converter.

    If it's a cat then it may be an aftermarket with reduced capacity causing the PO420. Sensors have their own codes and an oem gen2 cat is one of the best ever used which is why people steal them.

    Cat cleaners don't and can't work. Even attempts to clean cats off the car fail.

    Head gasket sealer - a bad idea that usually lasts for a few weeks or a couple of months with collateral damage to radiators and heaters.

    The combination meter guys can and do adjust mileage and carfaxs can be manipulated such that "low" mileage twenty year old cars may not be what they seem.

    Intake manifold coolant leaks as you suspect are unlikely but one of the easier jobs. Get it done so the real problems can then be attacked.
     
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