Featured Toyota Says You’ve Been Misled—Most “Hybrids” Aren’t Really Hybrids

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by Tideland Prius, Oct 29, 2025.

  1. bisco

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    it's the internet, we have to argue :cool:
     
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    You were talking climate impact, that involves carbon emissions. A study from several years back(was discussed here) calculated the 'best bang for the buck' in terms battery capacity for reducing carbon emissions from the personal vehicle fleet. Building a bunch of diesel mild hybrids does more for that reduction than a few full hybrids and plug ins.
    With the battery from a Rav4 PHV, we can replace...
    • 1 ICE SUV with a PHEV
    • 18 ICE SUVs with full hybrids
    • 90 ICE SUVs with diesel mild hybrids
    A single PHEV will reduce an individual's carbon emissions by a lot, but leaves a lot of straight ICE cars on the road. More hybrids means even greater carbon reductions over the entire fleet.

    Aside, how does the commute cost less than a BEV when even the bZ4X is more efficient?
     
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  3. Isaac Zachary

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    Where can I get my diesel mild hybrid please? :D

    Hopefully a small sedan or hatchback with a stick-shift.
     
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    High compression Diesel is not built to be start/stopped. It must run constantly to be efficient. In theory a constantly running battery backup would work but that's countering what we think of as a hybrid
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    There was a standards based list available a while back. It specified the various types. There were:
    series hybrids
    parallel hybrids
    series/parallel hybrids
    mild hybrids

    The Mild hybrids are often set up to use a hefty battery to start and stop the engine.