Vaccine provocation

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  1. bwilson4web

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    • How many died?
    • How many days in the hospital?
    • How do you separate vaccine side effects from those who got COVID anyway?
    I too have kept my COVID vaccinations current and it turns out, caught COVID age 72. It was a mild set of cold symptoms. By the time I took the COVID screening test, it was too late for anti-viral meds. So a week of mild cold symptoms and done. My long term COVID symptom is posting what happened to me.

    A sample set of one is not large enough so this is what Google shared:

    The New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) publishes ongoing research on COVID-19 vaccine effectiveness, with recent studies (October 2025) showing the updated 2024-2025 vaccines significantly reduced severe outcomes like emergency department visits, hospitalizations, and deaths in U.S. veterans, demonstrating continued effectiveness against severe disease across different age groups and health conditions. Another recent NEJM article provides a broad review of COVID-19, RSV, and flu vaccines, confirming their efficacy and safety.

    Key Findings from Recent NEJM Articles (2025):
    • 2024-2025 Vaccine Effectiveness: A study published in October 2025 found the latest COVID-19 vaccine was associated with lower risks of severe outcomes, with effectiveness estimates around 29% for ED visits, 39% for hospitalizations, and 64% for deaths over 6 months in veterans.
    • Broad Review: An October 2025 systematic review confirmed the overall effectiveness and safety of U.S.-licensed COVID-19 vaccines, along with RSV and flu vaccines.
    How NEJM Reports on Vaccine Effectiveness:
    • Real-World Data: Studies often use large national cohorts (like U.S. veterans) to assess real-world effectiveness against hospitalization, severe illness, and death.
    • Subgroup Analysis: They examine effectiveness across different demographics (age, co-existing conditions) to understand broad protection.
    • Meta-Analyses: NEJM publishes comprehensive reviews that synthesize data from numerous studies.
    To find the latest research, search the NEJM website directly for terms like "COVID vaccine effectiveness" or look for articles on vaccine efficacy and safety.​

    So a posting by an anonymous (troll-bot?) about a vaccine seriously promoted by the sociopath in Chief should take precedence over the New England Journal of Medicine?

    My answer is "Hail NO!" and sharing my COVID experience. I took the adult flu shot too. Public service:

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    Bob Wilson
     
    #121 bwilson4web, Dec 20, 2025 at 1:48 AM
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  2. frodoz737

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    end of line.
     
  3. bwilson4web

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    Promises, promises, if only there were a commitment.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    I committed to the mandates...until they did not threaten my career.
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    o_O

    I must have missed that too.
    I still use both.
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  6. fuzzy1

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    Is this an end to the "I am not going to shut up about the real facts" promise? Or does it mean all the "real facts" you have, have already been presented here?

    If the vaxxed "...family, friends neighbors and co-workers. Everyone caught the bug...up to 5 times" sample included no deaths and few hospital days, that would be evidence that the vaxx was indeed successful in reducing deaths and hospitalizations ...

    ... if the sample size was large enough.
     
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    "I must have missed that too." Quite so. Despite risks to animals in food chain and despite available safer alternatives, lead is still a 'sporting element'.