Featured EVs are not for everyone

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by bwilson4web, Feb 28, 2026 at 9:15 PM.

  1. BiomedO1

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    No way that two-stroke engine would make it here. Didn't they turn to VW for a cheap reliable engine? Heck, Mazda got an ear full with their rotary engine. They made a lot of power, but they were dirty, inefficient, and unreliable.
     
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    One other one in Canada was the Russian Lada, an old Fiat clone. The guy who imported the Yugo in the US, first failed at his own "safest car in the world". the gull-winged Bricklin. One of the Canadian Provinces supported the company with their pension funds and lost a LOT. No cigarette lighter because smoking is dangerous. LOL

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    Large ships and some diesels are two stroke. There is a niche where efficiency makes sense.

    I see a path where a water cooled, diesel, two stroke could make an impressive serial-hybrid. With a ‘battery’ having a 75-100 mile range, the two stroke would only need 25-50 kW capacity.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    The new rotary engines may fit that bill. Small; light, compact, reliable, and burns much cleaner than a diesel.
     
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    I like the idea of different technologies being developed. I'm not saying we all should be driving rotaries, or 2-strokes, or diesels. But you never know what changes there may be to a certain technology one day. The same can be said of hybrids. If manufacturers went with one and only one technology, then research and development on other technologies would stall and could end up being a missed opportunity for a better, cleaner technology.
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Drove past $3/gal gas today in my range extender BMW i3.

    Got home and plugged in drawing power from the solar roof battery. Earlier, tweaked Tesla charge level to capture late afternoon electrons.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    I filled up my ZR1 with Premium Unleaded yesterday...and it's still cheaper than it was during the last administration.
     
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    Both nationwide and Texas average prices are $0.10 - 0.15 more expensive today than the last day of the previous administration.
     
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    I do see a point in Bob's way of doing things. The current party isn't going to hold office forever. A solar panel will retain it's ability to produce electricity for decades, a century or more. But I don't think anyone is going to be able to save up 4 or 8 years worth of premium gasoline for when the administration changes back over.

    I just need to get solar panels and an EV the next time there are incentives for one and it makes financial sense.
     
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    The last day? When PU cost almost $6 a gallon during the previous...I'll take it all day long. Still waiting on the New Roaster to come out...which also doesn't make financial sense...or save the planet.
     
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    Per https://gasprices.aaa.com/2025/01/ the national gas price average was $3.10 or so at the end of January 2025. I could buy at the same price today. But I need to buy tomorrow. My last few fill ups were $2.679.

    So is it up from a week ago? Yes. From the end of the Biden admin? No

    It has to go up because the price of crude has been going up WTI Crude Oil Futures Contracts | Oilprice.com and there is a lag between buying the crude and delivering the finished product.
     
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    on my Prius, $3./gal. got me about 50 miles.
    on my bolt, 10 kwh gets me about 50 miles at 40 cents/kwh = $4.00
     
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    Why would anyone in Texas have ever paid anything even remotely close to $6/gal, for any octane grade? Besides for bragging rights?

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    Only the simplest mine would deny that there is a place for other fuel sources besides running an ev. That's what was so ridiculous about Gavin Newsom trying to do away with diesels in California.

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    California’s Newsom signs bill to restrict the sale of old diesel trains - E&E News by POLITICO

    One would imagine the highest number of diesel pushers are registered as RVs in california. Never mind all the visitors that come to the state parks.
     
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    Premium Unleaded Sir...93 octane minimum required.
    ...and I know exactly what gas has and does cost here. Your attitude is your problem.
     
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    If you can afford a brand new Corvette and 93 octane, a grade of fuel that isn't even available in my state and even feel the need to boast about it, then I feel that will reduce the substance of your posts on a forum dedicated to the type of vehicle that saves fuel and money. Kind of like a hunter who eats meat giving tips and tricks on a forum dedicated to vegetarians.

    But at the same time, I believe we can all respect and try to understand each other.

    I personally don't have an issue with fuel prices that much. If it were $6 a gallon, it would start to become the main cost of driving the vehicle for me. I would still probably spend about the same amount or more per year on insurance and tires alone. Add a car payment to that and $6 per gallon is going to be the very least of my worries, which is why I have always got good fuel mileage vehicles so it wouldn't ever be a problem.
     
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    I was vacationing in Texas (Big Bend NP and others) the first week-plus after Election Day 2024, and did not see premium priced multiple dollars higher than regular. Haven't seen premium price offsets that high anywhere in my travels.

    Special higher grades than sold at every corner fuel station have no relevance to the political 'Affordability' situation.
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    Your intense dislike of being fact checked, on this, Covid, or anything else, is your attitude problem.
     
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    To put things into perspective about fuel costs:

    I drive over the average, around 20,000 miles per year, sometimes more. However, when fuel went up to almost $4 per gallon, that was still only $165 per month out of my $200 fuel budget. With the past president it seemed to average around $3.50 here, with the exception of that one peak where it hit around $4. With the current president it's been around $3 per gallon, but dipped down to around $2.50, what calculates to around $105 per month for me. But even comparing $2.50 per gallon to $4 per gallon, that's only about a $50 a month savings for me, someone who drives more than the national average.

    I know that every little bit helps, but that $50 per month in supposed savings, assuming one party will make it an average of $4 a gallon and the other $2.50 a gallon, isn't going to help me much in the following areas:
    • $50 a month isn't going to help me get a house here where the average mortgage payment is $4,500 per month. and the cheapest studio condo with zero parking is about half that.
    • $50 a month isn't going to help me pay for health care that's between $1,800 and $3,500 per year ($1,800 premiums and $20,000 deductible).
    • $50 a month isn't going to help me pay the $550 and up per month it would cost to buy a new car ($350 car payment on a $25k car for 5 years plus about $200 in insurance).
    So, we can talk fuel prices all day long, but unless they're getting over $10 a gallon I don't really see them as an issue.
     
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    Agreed, transportation fuel costs are a minuscule amount of most household budgets
     
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