engine water pump failed to seal?

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    I attempted diy engine pump. I followed instructions of sr member Tombukt2. He set me up with a repair that seemed straightforward and i found a place to work on it at a friend. Tombukt2 advised take the pump off without draining any fluid this was the correct method if fluid is still good as you loose the min about a quart as promised.

    I bought a aisin pump it was marked to me as 20$ cheaper and still oem. It came with a new metal gasket. I torqued bolts to (8lb-ft, 96 in-lb). The repair was tight and messy but otherwise I got it done. When I went to burp it i hear the coolant hit the pavement as the pump didn't seal. Hopefully someone knows how to remedy this?

    Also, I am concerned that the coolant needs changed. What came out of there was orange and murky. The previous owner told me dont worry about engine coolant as he had changed the thermostat the same yr i bought the car and had changed fluid.

    Any help remedy these problems is appreciated.
     
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    I am going to add an update. From my personal research AI thinks this is a gasket issue and somewhat common on prius. It said that this is a case where one doesn't want to go oem because after market is more forgiving on old cars. AI recommended FEL-PRO. i will say i was having problems seeing what i was doing so i did bend the gasket a little when i was setting it up. Its a pain the metal gasket is this sensitive, if the culprit. How would you guess go about it if you agree this is a gasket issue?
     
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    also i am going to do a proper inspection on the fluid as i feel like this might be the most important part.
     
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    This is good to know. My 2007 has a weepy and crusty WP and I also have a new AISIN pump from Rockauto that I hope to tackle in the upcoming weeks. I plan to replace the thermostat as well and will likely drain out as much of the coolant from the system as possible including the storage tank.

    Can you describe the coolant being murky? When I look into the radiator neck, my red coolant appears cloudy and opague and not transparent.
     
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    If you're fluid looks like crap I would drain it at the lowest point and add new free mixed Asian red fluid for the leak usually what I have to do w meccie pumps is spray gasket adhesive on the pump put the gasket on the pump let that set. Use my elec for crinder to cleanup timing cover mating surface. Then assemble . I haven't had one of these mechanical pumps leaking 40 years putting it on or afterwards . not sure on leak . Hold you're camera under the pump as it's leaking .
     
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    Leaking gaskets are often from improper preparation of the surface. Either it wasn't cleaned well, or it was scratched when it was cleaned. Contamination of the surface on the new part with an oily/greasy,dirty finger can also cause this. Some gaskets can be installed incorrectly (rotated or flipped over) and will then leak. Were all the bolts properly torqued ? If so, when was the last time the torque wrench was calibrated? They can become quite inaccurate. It could be a bad gasket but Aisin is usually a quality product. What type of gasket do they supply?

    Regarding murky coolant, ours was pretty much clear at more than 6 years old. (Not sure how much more.) It was the same color as the replacement coolant. Get some pH paper. If the pH has dropped significantly that is a good sign the coolant is worn out, and once it becomes neutral, or much worse, acidic, it can start dissolving metals. (Slowly.)
     
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    I just did fluid inspection. I think its okay. It looked weird and dirty in the black pan. I put a white tissue in it and its defiantly pink. i think the turbidity came from inside the engine bay. Its messy when pull that pump off the side.

    I been calling mobile mechanics. Its hard to find an honest rate. What the part i used is a Aisin part that walmart sells. I think what we are going to do is return that part to walmart as failed and just start over. One guy put it its OEM like not OEM.

    Are you finding you need to put a sealant on the pump? I see some guys doing that in diy vids but its not technically the instructions.
     
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    First, aftermarket for Toyota water pumps is a bad idea. Not necessarily for leaks (rare in any case) but for long term reliability.

    Counterfeits exist with fake Toyota packaging. The Car Care Nut has a video on how to detect fakes.

    Toyota gaskets are not a problem and are generally the safest buy. Some like Fel Pro for Gen3 head gasket but that is a choice advocated on forums looking for a solution to a design issue. In fact Toyota upgraded that particular gasket as well.

    Solution for your gen2 water pump? Do it again with a new gasket. Drain your coolant first. Carefully clean and inspect the mating surfaces. Make sure all the bolts are in and torqued to spec.
     
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    Looks like we going to put a duralast in it from down the street mobile mechanic says he wouldn't mess with oem on a mechie. Frustrating but i guess should be resolved soon. not sure on walmart aisin parts as i am going to return it.
     
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    Be interesting to lay the dura's last side by side with the whatever it is cannot imagine they'll be much to see
     
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    But where is the leak on the gasket mating surfaces coming out of the weep hole of the brand new pump? That's kind of more interest than brands
     
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    The Walmart site is a marketplace like Ebay or Amazon. Presumably it has just as many fakes. If you want an Aisin pump that is really from Aisin get it from RockAuto. As far as I know nobody has reported fakes from RA. Or from an actual Toyota dealer.

    I'm with Tombuk2, is there a picture showing where the coolant was coming out? If it is pouring out along the shaft or weep hole then it has nothing to do with the gasket.

    If it really is just a bad gasket, the OP could always resort to some form of gasket in a tube. Or maybe just buy a better gasket? The OEM gasket lists for only $8 and I can get that for $6 at one of the local dealers.
     
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    Does he? Aisin makes the OEM pump and the price when it is stamped "Aisin" is reasonable. Duralast parts often cost as much as OEM, but you're paying for convenience, not quality.
     
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    Interesting a mechanic would choose the aftermarket store branded Duralast part over factory part whether it's a mechanical water pump or any other Toyota part. Perhaps that's why he is a successful mobile mechanic and I'm here typing on a keyboard.

    The $70 Duralast engine wp from Autozone stock image looks identical to the GMB wp at RockAuto for $20. Paying for the convenience of available part and the Autozone lifetime warranty. Good thing the wp on the Prius is easy direct access.
     
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    The mechanic probably has a deal with Autozone where he gets a labor and parts warranty if it fails right away. He then gets paid by them to do it over. As a result he really does not care about long term reliability.

    They won't pay for the engine if it blows due to an overheat.
     
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    Think about this from the mobile mechanic's perspective. He gets called out to fix a car, usually because the owner doesn't have the time to take it to a regular mechanic. Then it turns out it needs a water pump, alternator, or starter. Where is he going to get it? There may not be a dealer nearby, or the only dealer nearby may not have the part. If this is in a city of any size there will be an Autozone (or equivalent) around, and they stock those parts for a lot of cars. So he gets the part there, even though it isn't the best quality or least expensive part. If it fails he may get called back (and paid) a second time to swap it out, but neither he nor the client will pay for the replacement. If it fails after the car is sold, no skin off his back. If it is good enough and keeps working, that's good too.

    The calculus is different for most of us. We often have another car, so having one down for a few days isn't a deal breaker. We can wait a little for a part to come in. We don't want to do the job twice, so while we may not want to pony up for the OEM part, we will buy the Aisin or Denso or (anybody else who makes that OEM) part as good enough quality at a better price.
     
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    That's what I'm talking about I'm looking for the $20 GMB pump that'll go usually $300,000 MI no tight belts no funny business should last pretty much forever or until it don't . Long time should be .
     
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    Old man, born stupid, leprechauns. I am going to come clean. I made a mistake and its a little embarrassing.

    I had watched all the diy youtube wizards bleed a prius with a 2$ funnel. I went through 3 funnels on this job before i found the right one. The wizards used a long skinny round funnel. Its the only short cut that works. Triangle tips, ones that are too big in diameter doesn't work. What people should know is its a short cut not the standard. Your not going to be able to stick any funnel in there and get a seal.

    Here is what happened. MM came out replaced pump. Then when went to add coolant i am suddenly noticing that the coolant is not going up the funnel the way in youtube vids it was dumping over the side. So I cant hate on Aisin walmart pumps they probably work. I was spilling coolant down the side because I didnt have a proper tool. The MM loaned me a proper bleed no spill funnel and it worked really ideal for bleeding process.

    I am a diy enthusiast not a mechanic.

    I would like to ask one more question about the bleeding. The bleed screw no fluid ever came out of it. AI said that its probably clogged. I can try to unclog it or leave it alone. There was a lot of bubbles that i could easily see with a proper funnel. Even more bubbles when the car hit 180 degrees and the heater core filled up. The heater got nice and hot so ai said we were done. I bleed like this squeezing hoses for 20min and I think the system is good. AI thinks the system is good as the bubbles came out the radiator and heater got hot. However, I would like to know if anyone is doing anything with clogged bleeder valves?

    Never doing diy on st patty's again, because of Leprechauns I tell you.
     
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    Have to admit you are more honest than most around here that blow it big time.

    Spilled coolant was mistaken for a water pump leak which lead to a complete replacement by a mechanic for no reason?

    Depending on Ai for answers? It was certainly wrong on this subject in general and specifically in your case. As mentioned before, Ai knows nothing about auto repairs and largely is giving you the loudest voices from forums like reddit and facebook. You never get answers from official sources like Toyota.
     
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    Awful, yet i still beat the original quote from smog station by 500. I needed a lesson on burping the car, not putting on the pump. It would be nice to know if you guys have info on that bleed screw being stuck. Is it okay to burp out the top like AI said? I mean it seems okay to me. On the old car we may not want to mess with the old radiator if its working.