Any thoughts on the "looming" motor oil shortage?

I, always, keep a few extra jugs of oil in the garage but, so far, haven't seen anywhere with empty oil shelves. I am sad my local Walmart has torn apart all of the displays with their oil filters...I was going to pick up a few spare YZZN1's and YZZA4's for my Toyota's. (Hopefully they are just replacing the shelves and not getting rid of the filters.)

Just ignore those peddling their "fear p@rn"

"Don't sweat the small stuff....and everything is small stuff"

 

Been talking about this here, Motor-oil shortage on the horizon | PriusChat

 

Buy it as a bag in a box with spigot... Way less waste that way... Stupid quart oil bottles are lame!

 

that's wine

 

Shortage? Nah. Jacking the price into lunar orbit? Oh yeah, just watch

Good thing hybrids don't use oil like ICE-onlies do. Oh wait -- no difference, esp if you want oil and not water lubricating your plain bearing surfaces

 

Gee....I'm old enough to remember when "shutting down the oil industry" was a campaign promise.
Now?
We're presently "suffering" through a 20% distribution shortfall and suddenly we cannot get enough of the stuff.
If you're physically able or smart enough to DIY maintenance, and you're more than Covid years old you probably already have 1 or two oil changes in your garage.
I personally lean towards 2 changes worth of oil and filters in the garage, but (thanks to the climate industrial complex) I also have full sized truck with an eensy-weensie little four banger that puts 310BHP and 430ft/lbs of torque into the rear wheels........so oil changes come more frequently for me that they do for those who maintain a 'closed hood' maintenance philosophy.
My oil changes are half the price but they happen twice as often - so it's a wash for me.

 

I'll bet none of the folks who ever used that as a campaign promise said they were going to do it all at once with some bombs and no consultation because they could and without thinking through the sequelae.

 

Walmart here no longer had Supertech in a box. Had Mobil1 that way though.

 

Not shortage here just yet...just picked up two 5-qt jugs of Valvoline Extra Protection Synthetic 5W-30 for my daughter's Palisade....$28.97 a jug. The oil racks were pretty full of oil....only thing I didn't see were the Valvoline Restore and Protect but those always sell out fast.

It does look like my Walmart got rid of their Toyota OEM which is a huge letdown...will have to check out the other Walmart near work.

 

trade for a Bev, problems solved

 

Yep... SuperTech's 12 quart bag in a box was only $50 whereas Mobil 1 is $65ish. And I bet they're the exact same synthetic oil from the exact same refinery. Also what's great about the plastic bag beyond not having to have oil in individual quarts is that you can pull the plastic bag and let remaining oil settle in a corner and poke a hole to drain out every last drop.

 

Problem not solved.

BEV's. have other costs like increased insurance rates, expense battery degradation and replacement cost, charging cost from increasing electricity and charging cost, expensive specialty tire cost with shorter tire life and high depreciation,

This is explained in the following video.

Easier us to just stock up on a few jugs of oil and filters.

 

My daughter in Socal with a 2026 LE HEV will find out soon if her dealer (Wondries in Alhambra) is in "0w-16 for 0w-8" substitution mode. When I saw a couple weeks ago about Toyota doing that, I suggested she book an appointment and get it changed (it's due). They have what they call a "Happy Hour $48.88 Oil Change Special" (M-F between 1400-1730 hrs). I drove the LE from Louisiana to Socal back in February, got the oil/filter changed then, expected the 0w-8 they used to be "extra" cost above the $48.88 but surprisingly it wasn't then.

 

sorry Georgina, but that's all FUD. same insurance rate as our hycam, no battery degradation or replacement, charging cost is much cheaper than gas in many areas of the country, and even here, it's now cheaper than the national gas average.
depreciation is no higher than most gassers, toyota possibly excepted because of their reputation.

but my point was based on the thread title, haven't used any motor oil yet, so I'm not concerned about a shortage.
don't believe everything you watch in a video, that's maga's job

 

Still, for me who drives less than 2k miles a year, a BEV makes no sense.

An HEV is the best option.

My Prius v is close to 14 years old and the HV battery is still in good health.

When I will need to replace it, it will be about $4k of an OE at the dealership,

Will a BEV battery last 14 years plus? What is the replacement cost for the battery?

My Prius v still is worth about $8k. How much will a 14 year old BEV with its original battery, if It lasts that long, be worth?

 

https://priuschat.com/threads/how-long-do-electric-vehicle-batteries-actually-last-npr.259209

NPR: How long do electric vehicle batteries actually last?

"But based on their community, among EVs that are 10 years old or older, only 8.5% have ever had a battery replacement. More than 90% of them are still on their original battery.

"EV batteries are holding up phenomenally well," Najman says.

Recurrent has also looked at EVs of any age that have more than 150,000 miles on them, which provides a closer look at the effects of that cyclical aging. There, too, the batteries outperformed expectations.

"Cars with 150,000 miles or more, and that have not had battery replacements, are getting at least 83% of their original range," Najman says."


EV makers have learned a lot since those first Nissan Leafs.

 

as I said, toyota is an exception that few carmakers can match, regardless of drive train.