COVID-19 hearings Wednesday

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    Source: Fauci expressed disillusionment with ‘rambling, crazy’ Trump in journal | Anthony Fauci | The Guardian

    For “about 20-25 minutes”, Fauci wrote, he “encouraged [Trump] not to underplay the seriousness of the situation since if it turns out bad, it would look like he is covering up. I even spoke to him from a political standpoint that his chances for re-election might be more damaged if he downplayed the potential spread of virus in the USA than if he said we may face serious problems and even if the Stock Market goes down further, he was at least honest and the country would respect him for it.

    “I thought that he heard what I said, but the next day, he again underplayed it.”

    By 14 March, in the thick of the first Covid shutdowns, Fauci is bemoaning Trump’s fixation on “the fluff of ratings and publicity. And so he wants us to do 2 press conferences/day – one in AM and one in PM … We now will have no time to do work.”

    Scanning local radio, heard some ‘talk radio’ heads lying to their sheeple about what will happen Wednesday.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    the cdc should have had a spokes person who understood the science, and had public relations experience.
    it was an untenable position for Fauci, who was deeply involved, but lacked the communication ability needed.
     
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    What were they saying will happen?
     
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    how can you lie about what hasn't happened?
     
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    The talking heads were making stuff up about the ‘diary’ and then complaining that real news sources were not repeating their ‘outrage.’ They also injected complaints about free people who choose to wear a face mask in public.

    They were so frustrated that their fantasies were not ‘news’ they basically were flittering about with no consistency. Babbling more than informative. Especially ineffective noise.

    Soon I was scanning the stations for more music.

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    I think a few of them might be priuschatters :D
     
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    Propaganda parrots are everywhere … including ‘talk radio.’ We used to call them ‘trolls’ and Proverbs ‘fool.’

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Speaking of worthless shots, here's one for the books

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    Then people wonder why so man6 didn't want to bother with covid shots?
    LOL go figure !
    It'll be interesting how the next few years of data go.
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    The study in question was published in February 2005, using data from 1968 through 2001. Considering that there have been many vaccine system changes and more studies since, this YT posting seems more like worthless conspiracy click-bait than anything else.
     
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    Our topic (new Hearings) should draw much from:

    https://oversight.house.gov/report/after-action-review-of-the-covid-19-pandemic-the-lessons-learned-and-a-path-forward/

    Link to downloadable 520-page document. Some might read it.

    Much is made there of:

    Alina Chan, Why the Pandemic Probably Started in a Lab, in 5 Key Points, THE N.Y. TIMES (June 3, 2024). I guess that word “probably” was not author’s choice but used for click purposes. Five key points were:

    1. The SARS-like virus that caused the pandemic emerged in Wuhan, the city where the world’s foremost research lab for SARS-like viruses is located.

    2. The year before the outbreak, the Wuhan institute, working with U.S. partners, had proposed creating viruses with SARS-CoV-2’s defining feature.

    3. The Wuhan lab pursued this type of work under low biosafety conditions that could not have contained an airborne virus as infectious as SARS-CoV-2.

    4. The hypothesis that Covid-19 came from an animal at the Huanan Seafood Market in Wuhan is not supported by strong evidence.

    5. Key evidence that would be expected if the virus had emerged from the wildlife trade is still missing.

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    Things can be said about those 5 that were not included in house.gov long document.

    1. First phrase is obviously true, and second phrase has not been supported by evidence.

    2. That grant proposal was not funded.

    3. All work done there followed BSL-2 protocols; used in other labs (worldwide) for virus research including on rabies. It seems opinion to call BSL-2 “low biosafety conditions”. With no evidence that Wuhan Institute of Virology worked on this virus, this is speculation.

    4. Dealt with below with publications and other sources cited in house.gov document.

    5. Information that China government may have about wildlife trade in Huanan Seafood Market in Wuhan is still unavailable, and I expect no further disclosures. That market has been closed but I don’t know if it has been demolished. What I do know is China government has put new restrictions on wildlife trade, some of which are noted at:

    https://everything.explained.today/Huanan_Seafood_Wholesale_Market/
    https://reference.org/facts/Huanan_Seafood_Wholesale_Market/lV44b7c6

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    house.gov document also mentioned 5 publications addressing origins of COVID:

    Alexander Crits-Christoph et al. Genetic tracing of market wildlife and viruses at the epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic. CELL 187: 5468-5482

    Edward Holmes et al. The origins of SARS-CoV-2: A critical review. CELL 184: 4848-4856

    Jonthan Pekar et al. The molecular epidemiology of multiple zoonotic origins of SARS-CoV-2. SCIENCE 377:960-966

    Michael Worobey et al. The Hunan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan was the early epicenter of the COVID1-9 pandemic. SCIENCE 377: 951-959

    Edward Holmes et al. The emergence and evolution of SARSCoV-2. ANN. REV. VIROL. (Sept. 11, 2024).

    I’ve read all and they are ‘open’ so readers can also. Not all readers may agree that preponderance of evidence supports natural origin of COVID jump to humans. But these are what house.gov document mentioned. It did not offer any opposing evidence, and yet did not draw the obvious conclusion.

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    Alina Chan’s life changed after writing for NY Times:

    https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2025/03/12/alina-chan-cambridge-covid/

    And I particularly draw readers’ attention to:

    https://www.bigbiology.org/episodes/2023/9/7/ep-105-follow-the-data-the-search-for-covids-origin-with-alina-chan

    Where in Sept. 2023, no evidence was presented that “the Pandemic Probably Started in a Lab”.

    Instead one hears that virus research including ‘gain of function’ (GoF) should proceed for human benefits, but ought to be done in remote places where BSL protocols are improved by sick people not allowed to get off the island. That matches my vision of benefits and risks of GoF research.

    Dr. Chan is pursuing related interests:

    Chen et al. eLife 2021;10:e63409. DOI: https://doi.org/10.7554/eLife.63409

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    We are in a new world where next frisky virus jump to humans can be quickly (DNA) sequenced and mRNA vaccine against can be quickly manufactured at scale. Our new supepower! But limited by FUD about vaccines, and pharmaceutical companies profiteering if allowed to. do so. We are not quite yet Super.

    But I expect to hear nothing of that in new House Hearing.