new maintenance document: WIPER-BLADE

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by john1701a, Jun 26, 2005.

  1. john1701a

    john1701a Prius Guru

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2004
    12,793
    5,275
    57
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    http://john1701a.com/prius/prius-wiperblades.htm ...provides a brand new document for those of you that want to do some routine stuff that the dealer would normally do.


    [Broken External Image]:http://john1701a.com/prius/images/prius_wiperblades_01.jpg

    [Broken External Image]:http://john1701a.com/prius/images/prius_wiperblades_02.jpg . . [Broken External Image]:http://john1701a.com/prius/images/prius_wiperblades_03.jpg

    [Broken External Image]:http://john1701a.com/prius/images/prius_wiperblades_04.jpg . . [Broken External Image]:http://john1701a.com/prius/images/prius_wiperblades_05.jpg

    [Broken External Image]:http://john1701a.com/prius/images/prius_wiperblades_06.jpg . . [Broken External Image]:http://john1701a.com/prius/images/prius_wiperblades_07.jpg


    Please provide feedback, since I'm sure there's a little bit of wording that needs some tweaks.
     
  2. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2004
    45,184
    16,408
    41
    Location:
    Canada
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Looks good! As well as telling people how to replace the wipers blades, it also tells them how to lift the rear wiper =).
     
  3. jayman

    jayman Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2004
    13,439
    641
    0
    Location:
    Winnipeg Manitoba
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    John:

    Thanks for the very high quality pdf!

    Inbetween changing blades, I have found that soaking a paper towel in isopropyl alcohol - the same stuff you get at a grocery store as an antiseptic rub - really improves the cleaning.

    You'd be surprised the gunk you get off the blade. The paper towel will be black/brown with nasty residue.

    Jay
     
  4. Frank Hudon

    Frank Hudon Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2004
    4,147
    19
    0
    diesel soot mainly.
     
  5. jayman

    jayman Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2004
    13,439
    641
    0
    Location:
    Winnipeg Manitoba
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Oh great ... I wonder what that crap is doing to my lungs. Might as well smoke 5 packs a day and get it over with.
     
  6. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2004
    45,184
    16,408
    41
    Location:
    Canada
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
  7. DonDNH

    DonDNH Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2004
    1,711
    654
    0
    Location:
    Nashua, NH
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Four Touring
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Frank Hudon\";p=\"101880)</div>
    I thought most of the black you rub off is graphite which is what colors the wiper black and acts as a lubricant as well.
     
  8. bookrats

    bookrats New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2004
    2,843
    2
    0
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    John, that is really useful! Thanks!
     
  9. jayman

    jayman Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2004
    13,439
    641
    0
    Location:
    Winnipeg Manitoba
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DonDNH\";p=\"102283)</div>
    I've noticed that if I have a wiper blade that chatters, cleaning the blade with Rubbing Alcohol (Isopropyl alcohol) usually gets rid of the chatter. Also doesn't streak either.

    If that was some sort of lubricant, the wiper blade would work much worse after I used the alcohol to clean it.
     
  10. Bill Merchant

    Bill Merchant absit invidia

    Joined:
    May 3, 2005
    4,096
    85
    13
    Location:
    USA | Oregon | Portland area | 97004 |
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    [font=Comic Sans MS:e0cdf04449]Thanks John, a good guide. You might also want to mention how to remove the front blade holders, which can make replacing the rubber much easier. It doesn't seem the rear blade holder can be removed.

    I usually carry a couple of alcohol prep-pads in my glove box. These are the pads the doctor uses to cleanse your skin before an injection. You can get them at the drug store in big boxes (diabetics who need insulin shots use them) or ask at the doctor's office for a few on your next visit. Sealed in little foil packets, they are ready the next time you wipe tree sap onto your windshield.[/font:e0cdf04449]
     
  11. john1701a

    john1701a Prius Guru

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2004
    12,793
    5,275
    57
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bill Merchant\";p=\"102725)</div>
    I saw no need to add that extra step. The front blades are already much easier to thread through the grips than the one in back.

    I also found the clip could be a bit of a challenge for those without strong fingers or unwilling to exert force on a component they've never handled before.
     
  12. Bill Merchant

    Bill Merchant absit invidia

    Joined:
    May 3, 2005
    4,096
    85
    13
    Location:
    USA | Oregon | Portland area | 97004 |
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(john1701a\";p=\"102729)</div>
    [font=Comic Sans MS:7711f05e2a]Feedback offered.

    I personally find it easier to remove the blade carrier and not have to work at an awkward angle on the front wipers. I didn't find I needed to press hard or exert force to remove the carriers. The back blade is easier to thread in place since it is closer to, and parallel, the side of the car.

    To each his own.[/font:7711f05e2a]
     
  13. john1701a

    john1701a Prius Guru

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2004
    12,793
    5,275
    57
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    That's what gatherings are for. We play with the cars and make firsthand comparisons. Some are easier than others to remove certain components, especially after they've been removed once already.

    By the way... is that a generalization, or have you already done a replacement on a Prius? We find that Prius makes some things easier in unexpected situations. Toyota really went all out rethinking how vehicles should be built.
     
  14. Bill Merchant

    Bill Merchant absit invidia

    Joined:
    May 3, 2005
    4,096
    85
    13
    Location:
    USA | Oregon | Portland area | 97004 |
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    [font=Comic Sans MS:73002a9c58]When I read your guide, I went and removed the driver's side wiper to see how well your guide described the process. Removing the rubber was easy, threading it back in in mid-air was not. So I removed the holder and easily slid in the rubber and easily remounted the holder. While it is easy to get the holder off with the rubber still in place, it's very easy to get it off with the rubber out of the way. It's a standard hook.

    I'm thinking of replacing the regular rubber wipers with the silicone PIAA blades PriusChat sponsor SigmaAutomotive offers.[/font:73002a9c58]
     
  15. john1701a

    john1701a Prius Guru

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2004
    12,793
    5,275
    57
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jayman\";p=\"102563)</div>
    Don't you have pure alcohol in the squirter?

    Only those much farther south have the option of mixing with water. For us northern folk, only that blue stuff gets poured in. So we have a readily available source of good cleaning fluid already.
     
  16. jayman

    jayman Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2004
    13,439
    641
    0
    Location:
    Winnipeg Manitoba
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Hi John:

    Nope, nowhere close. If you put "pure" alcohol in the squirter tank, you'd probably destroy the washer pump, the hoses, and the wiper blades too. Probably even dissolve the washer tank. The stuff you buy at the auto parts store is watered down quite a bit.

    I use the washer fluid "Motomaster" from Canadian Tire because it's cheap - $2.99 for 4 litres - and is rated at -45 C. It works well and I always keep a spare jug in the car. At the very least, I can use it to wipe the bugs off the wiper blades after a drive.

    One thing about the washer fluid is that it also has a lot of additives, especially a coloring agent, and detergents and surfactants (Surface Active Agent). That can stay behind as a noticeable film on the glass, and may cause wiper chatter.

    OTOH, the rubbing alcohol you probably have in your bathroom is clear and 70%. At that strength, I only use it when I notice a streak in the wiper action or no more than once every 2-3 weeks. You're actually removing some of the material when you wipe the blade with rubbing alcohol.

    When I lived in Utah and Nevada, I used that "summer" washer fluid. The winter stuff evaporates at temps of 100 F or higher and will cause problems. As long as it stayed way above freezing, the summer stuff worked great.

    Jay
     
  17. jayman

    jayman Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2004
    13,439
    641
    0
    Location:
    Winnipeg Manitoba
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Bill:

    That's a great head's up. I tried removing the holder this morning, took them up to my condo, and found it very easy to remove the old blade and slide it back in.

    Jay
     
  18. Bill Merchant

    Bill Merchant absit invidia

    Joined:
    May 3, 2005
    4,096
    85
    13
    Location:
    USA | Oregon | Portland area | 97004 |
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jayman\";p=\"103411)</div>
    [font=Comic Sans MS:4fc88f334f]
    Thanks Jay. That's why I made the suggestion to John about including wiper holder removal in his guide.

    I'm not a tall guy, and reaching over the windshield and trying to thread the rubber and metal stiffeners up into the holder was too difficult. The "sandwich" kept wanting to fall apart. It's summer time now, so standing outside leaning over the windshield isn't unlpeasant. If it was cold and rainy, trying to thread the rubber and metal stiffeners in mid-air would be a real chore.[/font:4fc88f334f]
     
  19. Mitchla

    Mitchla New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2003
    107
    0
    0
    Do we have to use Toyota blades or are they standarized? I bought 24" and 17" Micheline blades but haven't put them on yet. Thanks.
     
  20. jayman

    jayman Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2004
    13,439
    641
    0
    Location:
    Winnipeg Manitoba
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    You mean the inserts? I honestly don't know. Before I put on my winter wiper blades at the beginning of November, I got new refills at my dealer: $6.50 and $5 for the smaller one.

    BTW when I was shopping for winter wiper blades, my dealer was quite competitive too: with tax $22 Canadian for both of them. Canadian Tire wanted almost that much for one.