Need brand suggestion for aftermarket Pads/Rotors (Rear)

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by woody23, Aug 28, 2023.

  1. woody23

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    My rear pads still have some life on them (4mm) but the OEM rotors are rusting very badly and I'm thinking I might move up the job. I'm not interested in dropping $200+ for OEM parts right now so I'm wondering which brands on Rockauto are reliable?

    Rotors:

    Durago
    Bendix
    Wagner
    Quality-Built
    Raybestos
    Power Stop
    Bosch
    Brembo
    Dynamic Friction


    Pads:

    Many of the same brands
     
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    The rust is most likely because your driving habits make the most of regenerative braking... Before you consider replacing the rotors take a couple freeway exits with the car in neutral. That forces all mechanical breaks/turns off regenerative brakes and it will quickly clean up those rotors. Then reinspect to determine if that's all you need or still would benefit from replacing.
     
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    Thanks, I've never heard of that.
     
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    You should get Toyota pads, and try autozone for rotors, or other parts store.
     
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    if you're buying off the Rock menu I'd probably suggest Wagner or Bosch first. Admittedly I'm a little surprised they aren't offering Akebono, which many Toyotas got from the factory and would likely be my top choice overall.

    When it comes to rotors, there is something to what Priuscamper is relating about rust.

    And just in case you decide you still need new rotors, it's good to go for the nice coated rotors since a Prius has regenerative brakes and is somewhat more prone to rotor rust. Rock sells these as "fully coated" in a separate category.
     
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    I put coated slotted x-drilled rotors on all four positions on my persona they're still silver after about 3 years 1 year or year and a half was completely sitting on a rock driveway while we were contemplating putting an engine or doing whatever The pads I use are made by one of the big manufacturer that's the dark red purple in the name I can't remember Ray bestos something another they're about $39 a set pads I used it front and back and the rotors were made by not a big name brand company but they were stated and the coating is what I was interested in I bought some before similar from another manufacturer and they rusted very quickly or turned brown corroded whatever you want to call it Not the part where the brakes grabbing all the rest of it. So far these things I bought from Amazon are completely silver out to the lug nuts still even when I get dirt on them and hose them off they stay silver so far so that's kind of good because the wheels on the persona are quite open and you're staring at that mess. I don't think Toyota has coated plated whatever rotors and if they do they would be getting them from a vendor I'm sure of that so we can do that also.
     
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    Appreciate the feedback. Yeah, I see the "fully coated" ones on there and Bosch has the 50011484 Quietcast for about $25 a piece, less than half of the Toyota ones. So maybe I'll go for those.

    I only need the car to last me another 2-3 years so I don't want to go overboard, especially when I used cheaper pads and rotors on the front when I first bought the car in 2015 and those ended up lasting longer than the rears I replaced a couple of years later with official Toyota pads and rotors.
     
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    Since hybrid owners rarely go through pads, it may not be best to ask pad recommendation here lol. But in my experience, any cheap brake pads/rotors will do. The main thing is to do routine brake jobs once a year - taking the tire off, greasing pins, scraping off rust/dust, spraying a coat of antirust/engine paint. Conventional brake pads only really last 20-40k miles.

    Just did the brakes of friends car here:
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    (old pads below)
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    Yes but how many miles are on the car you're taking the pads off in the picture and these must be the new rotors and the old pads you're showing that are worn out but the rotors are still like new and silver I imagine that's a new rotor?. Is that a Prius setup I can't tell that I just looked very quickly If so I don't think I've ever seen Prius pads taken down that far that must be 270,000 mi 313 something??. At 190,000 on my '09 the pads were still I don't want to say half good but whatever maybe a third The problem was the pads were all aged and the material was starting to crack and get yucky Best way I can describe it I don't like that so I whip those off and put on new pads the rotors still looked okay they weren't coded so there was light rust on everything except where the brake pad contacts. So I just left the rotors and now these pads that I just put on I don't know a year ago they'll probably go to 450,000 I'm right at 300k now.
     
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    The Prius is one set of vehicles that will not need the yearly brake type work not even close.. take a look at the chat list here and see if you can I didn't even think to do that see what somebody did or if somebody's taking one of these cars gen two or three and run the pads all the way till they start scraping like when they're doing rotor damage. And what miles did they post they were at when they did that I'm sure one of these new '04 to '08 buyers especially had documented this in an amazingly long drawn-out thread I would think and I bet they would have been at about 3:25 K miles.. That's just a guess I did not do this search.
     
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    On my hybrid, the pads lasted about 100k miles if I recall. On a friends non hybrid car, the pads lasted 40k miles with OEM brake pads from the factory.

    In the picture, I just showed that I replaced the pads and rotors because it needed it. But you don't have to replace the rotors if they are in good shape. Cheap brake pads(or at least softer pads) shouldn't put alot of wear on your rotors. But even if you needed to replace the rotors, they arn't expensive at all.

    I also agree that hybrids rarely need brake work, but once a year or every two years, I still recommend performing a brake job. That is something I would do if I could go back in time for my car. If you work on the brakes only when it needs it, there's going to be more problems. Maintaining the brakes keeps it loose.
     
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    No We have not had any problems with Prius brakes at all regenerative braking sometimes acts up but that has nothing to do with the brake pads in the rotors That's all the electric motors That's like breaking of your DeWalt cordless high-end circular saw you let go of the trigger and it instantly stops That's electronics doing that not pads That's how the Prius basically works for regenerative braking. I have seen Prius come in with 240,000 mi with brakes never touched The fronts are just getting to the point where they'll be scraping in the morning and on a generation two the rear shoes or about a third the way gone so still about another 40K miles or better on the rear on a regular car on the Prius it might be more like a hundred. But we go ahead and change all four while we have them apart I'm already there He makes no sense so now I'm very careful before I take them apart. In the front I try to take them apart and do the hubs end links if needed struts if needed and possible and of course the brakes lower ball joint all that at one time then it's like a new front end on each side for the most part and the labor is the same once you take the wheel off in the caliper off you might as well undo the I think 31 mm axle nut and the three or four 14 mm bolts and what not that are holding the lower ball joint and the two 19s that are holding the hub assembly to the strut and let it rip and if you have struts the other three bolts at the top go ahead and change the struts this is taking an extra 40 minutes aside maybe. If you're smart and you have extra hubs you can already bolt the strut and the hub and everything up and sling it in there put the three top bolts on add the three bottom bolts on the ball joint to the control arm and you're well on your way to reassembly on that side I try and do this stuff all at once I hate taking the same thing back apart two or three times.
     
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    I've ever replaced a rotor. There was one instance I should have, it developed a crack; that was the death sentence. Dealership handled that. There's a story on that fiasco, but I'll restrain myself.

    If they're not a corroded disaster, and you're interested in checking rotors against spec, see attached.

    My 2 cents: just get Toyota parts. You'll likely only be doing this once, and if you don't like surprises, that's the way to go. Get the shims and end clip bits too.
     

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