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So long friend. Traded in the Prime

Discussion in 'Prime Main Forum (2017-2022)' started by Zed Ruhlen, May 21, 2024.

  1. Zed Ruhlen

    Zed Ruhlen Active Member

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    After 6 years and 30k miles I traded in my Prime and purchased a used Ironiq 5. Blue Spark treated me well but just didn't quite meet my needs. The EV range was just too low for my needs. Originally Blue Spark was purchased when my lease on a Leaf ended and there just weren't any affordable choices in longer range EVs. The landscape is much different today and what with Hertz getting rid of their fleet the used EV market is a bargain. It helped that the Prime was worth more used than I originally paid for it. I really like going back to a pure EV. I always found it maddening that the Prime would fire up the engine rather than doing something like using the friction brakes on a hill. Or not allowing me to use the defroster in EV mode. She treated me well and I'm sure the new owners will be thrilled.
     
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  2. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Vaya con Dios!

    Don't be a stranger.
    There are a lot of Prius ex-pats here.

    Good Luck!
     
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  3. bisco

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    i've heard a lot of good things about the ionique, would love to see the details of your deal if willing, and hear a report on how it's going from time to time.
    all the best!
     
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  4. Zed Ruhlen

    Zed Ruhlen Active Member

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    I got it used in Portland from Platt Auto. a 2022 SE RWD with 28k miles. So far I'm really liking it but it takes a million years to charge on my 110 charger. I'm putting in a 14-50 outlet this week so that will be much better.

    It's no surprise that it goes a LOT further on a charge that the Prime. Before I was charging Blue Spark almost daily and driving it (we have hills) about 10-20 miles a day. Now I use about 3-5% charge per day driving the same amount. I got the RWD for efficiency and it has plenty of power without being EV neck snapping quick. I get about 3.5mi/kWH on the freeway. I'm loving it so far.

    Shout out to Platt Auto. They were incredibly easy to buy from. They don't haggle and they price their vehicles fairly. They gave me a fair trade in on the Prime as well. TBH I despise dealerships and I would go back to Platt in a heartbeat.
     
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  5. Washingtonian

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    I think a lot of us on this forum are in a similar situation. My Prime is 7 years old and has just under 30K miles. Of course it still runs perfectly and I have no logical reason to replace it. I have also been reading the Ioniq 5 forum for about a year and at the present time it seems like a logical upgrade for my PP. But I think I would like something a little smaller. If the Kia Soul or the Honda Fit were EVs, that would fit our needs perfectly. I would be interested on what others on this forum are looking to upgrade to in the next year or two.
    Ray
     
  6. Zed Ruhlen

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    Of course the Ioniq 5 is bigger than the Prime (by a lot inside and not as much outside) and it is worlds more comfortable to drive. The interior room is unbelievably large. Acres of rear seat space and having two six foot tall kids that was a major decision factor. But a 6 foot tall passenger can sit behind a 6 foot tall driver without complaint. The seats are way more comfortable. The sound level is much quieter. It's altogether a different class of car. It does have some annoyances though. Capacitive touch buttons should be illegal. They aren't as annoying as some (looking at you, VW) but they aren't as good as physical ones. I'm still just astonished by the range. I keep thinking "oh, I'll need to charge it soon" but then another day goes by and it's only lost 2-3 percent of the range. I haven't yet run into anything I hate though. It only took me one drive to find something to hate on the Prime (the backup dinging, which I used Carvista to turn off).
     
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    Looks like I may get my wish in about a year. Kia just announced the EV3 which looks like what I am waiting for; like an update to and EV version of the Soul, and more range than the Ioniq5
    Ray
     
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    summary: avoid Hyundai and Kia, they’re trouble-prone, disposable cars. One mechanic’s opinion I guess, but…
     
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  9. Zed Ruhlen

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    Well of course YMMV. I know that Hyundai/Kia have a couple of pretty serious engine issues but then so has Toyota (3.0/3.3 head gasket, Previa 2.4 SC head gasket, 2.4 engine sludge, etc.). And I am aware that they are not as reliable as Toyota but I think that buying any used car with over 100k miles is likely to exhibit many of these issues. I used to own a 94 Corolla and I considered it quite reliable but here's what I replaced on it in the 125k I owned it: alternator, front and rear brakes (rear x2), left axle (apparently prone to CV failure), thermostat housing, power steering hoses, struts, control arm bushings, sway bar bushings, tie rod ends. We lived on a gravel road, go figure that suspension parts would take a beating. And the trim was really prone to failure. The reason I sold it was because the car locked my 2 year old in the car on a hot afternoon when I was picking him up from daycare. The keys were in the car at the time so I couldn't unlock it and had to break a window. That was inexcusable and I sold it a week later.

    As you go down in prices you typically see an increase in repairs. They are built to a price point and it shows.
     
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    Yeah maybe quality is slipping with all of manufacturers. Corner cutting abounds. "Who sucks less" is the criteria now.
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    The "who sucks less" could still be way better than cars from decades ago.
     
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    no question in my mind. 70's and 80's cars rarely made 100,000 miles without expensive repairs
     
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    Hey, I resemble that remark :sneaky: You know, we really could use a Hyundai Ioniq expert around here. If they also know something about Priuses, well that's all for the better.:whistle:..
     
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    Everyone I know who owns a Hyundai or Kia I ask how they like it. They enthusiastically reply they LOVE it! Then I ask them how often it's in the shop. And without fail, they always reply "well, yeah, all the time, that's the one bad thing about it."

    Had my PP 7 years and other than maintenance, had only one thing go wrong.

    Don't know if Hyundai/Kia EVs are any better or not, but while people seem to love their Hyundais/Kias, they also seem to be at the mechanic's an awful lot.
     
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    I saw a YouTube video on "The Malaise Era" that described the cars of the 70's and 80's. Of course, cars before then also had their own issues and rarely made it much beyond the 100K mile mark.
     
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