Best new/refurb battery option - and where are these mythical $2000 OEM batteries?

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  1. pmelc1

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    Have an '06 with 260k and hybrid battery finally died completely after being in a suboptimal state for the last year or so.

    Every time there's battery conversation here, someone inevitably chastises everyone for messing around with refurbished batteries and claims there are $2k OEM batteries available from dealers or 'with a simple Google search.'

    Last time I saw this claim, I called 5-6 dealers in three states near me and there was nothing much under $4k. Lowest I saw was around $3800, average price was $4200-4400 not including installation. Google search yielded nothing cheaper.

    So if anyone somehow has access to these $2k OEM batteries, please, please share it here and I will purchase one immediately, because yes, that would undoubtedly be the best option.

    Otherwise, does anyone have an opinion on the best refurbished company? Green Bean, Green Tec, Best Hybrid Batteries, Exclusively Hybrid? If you could share your experience I would appreciate it.

    Ideally I'd like to buy one with all new cells since I have the cash and plan to keep the car for a long time. Anyone deal with newpriusbatteries.com who sells the new cylindrical batteries?
     
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    Therein lies your problem cells you can't buy. Prismatic modules which contain I believe six cells you can buy finding new unmolested ones is probably pretty expensive when you rack up 28 of them you'll be sitting at $2,800 or similar. There are round cell conversions that over the last few decades no one has ever gotten much performance out of but they seem to be back with a vengeance and of course the people selling them all say this is the new breed of blah blah blah like always The last time I purchased a Toyota factory battery through the Toyota Network of dealers I purchased it online they put a hold on my credit card for 3 grand I picked up my battery out of a big funky looking shipping case look like something a gun would go in or something refrigerated would go in and I brought my older trade-in battery with me picked up the new battery left the old one they called me several hours later said my trade-in was good and whacked off whatever it was I wound up paying $14.87 that out of the three grand. The battery prices do fluctuate oh well it happens If you're going to go with a refurb find a local private guy in your area he'll advertise on Facebook marketplace or whatever That's going to cost you about $5.99 That's reasonable spending $1,500 with green bean or green tech is just to me kind of silly You can do that with a private guy for 600 My guy does me real good and builds a real good battery shockingly enough some people do give a crap I've got to his batteries coming up on the 3-year mark and everything's been great and running and working fine No I'm not out putting my battery through the paces and hill climbing and running pikes peak every other afternoon either as one probably shouldn't be.
     
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    My opinion is to use more modern modules from other cars.
    Modules for high-voltage batteries are interchangeable and are used on both Gen2 and Gen3, on Prius V, Lexus CT200 and many others. Brand new cars get into accidents and when they are dismantled for spare parts, a battery from such a car is an excellent option.
     
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    Do the dealers quotes include the $1,350. Core charge?
     
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    Good question, I just called five dealers near me in southern NJ (Philly suburbs) and Delaware to confirm on that point and on current pricing:

    Toyota Runnemede: $3300+tax plus $1350 core = $4868.63
    Holman Toyota: $6447+tax plus $1890 core = $8224.11 (not a misprint, not a mistake on their end)
    Toyota of Turnersville: $5716+tax plus $1350 core = $7444.69
    Price Toyota (New Castle Delaware): no stock 'battery is not available anywhere in the country'
    Newark ToyotaWorld (Delaware): $3696 no tax + $1350 core = $5046, delivered in 3 days
     
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    There have been reports of price fluctuations in the past, and scarcity.
    Most of us are just repeating what we have read here.
    On the aftermarket, it’s a crapshoot. You can google for threads on each company.
    Some have success, some limited, and some failures.
     
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    Here's my situation curious on your opinion:

    I have a bunch of spare parts from a very well maintained '07 Prius with about 120k miles and rear end damage (did not affect battery) that I bought on Copart for about $1000 8-9 years ago. I bought the car for doors and body panels that I needed (which paid for the auction purchase) and eventually I stripped it down and sold the chassis, and was able to salvage the engine, transmission, hybrid battery, wheels, clean seats, and bunch of other parts. Car started and ran just wouldn't drive. I still have the spare engine and transmission on hand for when I need it, all major components on my '06 are still original.

    So I have a seemingly good hybrid battery with 120k miles on it. I'm sure there are also some good cells in my current battery, though I think a pretty big portion of the pack is bad based on BlueDriver codes.

    I know a guy who knows these batteries pretty well and I was thinking we could mix and match the cells from the '07 battery, and install new bus bars and nuts. Might be able to get that done for maybe $300 all said and done, assuming I don't need to buy any modules.

    Would you mess with cells/modules that have been sitting for 9 years? Do you think there's a chance the majority could still be good? I can't imagine they're that much different than a lot of the other refurbished cells out there.
     
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    Thanks I think I would go that route instead since it's a bit of a crap shoot either way. There are guys local to me charging around $600 installed with 6-month warranty. Can you see my comment above to bisco and let me know your thoughts?
     
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    I suspect they are shot, but it sounds like your battery guy would know better than me.
    Have you considered nexpowers new sodium battery?
    I’m not promoting it, and there have been some problems in the past, but there are some good threads here., just beware the hype.
    People also buy new modules somewhere to mix with any good ones left in your battery
     
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    No hadn't heard of that. I went on the site and looks like they only have Gen 3 batteries in stock currently.

    I'm just thinking if most of the cells being sold online are from old Prius batteries of a similar age, they've also been sitting so I don't see what the difference would be.
     
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    Yes, due diligence is required, modules have serial numbers with date codes I think
     
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    You don't call the dealers. They will treat you like a walk in customer which means no discount. You find the proper part number and google that number. From the results you pick a Toyota online dealer. I just searched for G9510-76013 for my 2012 v and came up with $1956 at one dealer and many under $2200. These assemblies require you to move your battery ecu, contactors and fan.
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    Independents like Hometown Hybrids will turnkey install for $2695. I used them years ago on the v. They sent a guy three hours away with a complete assy, ecus and all and changed it in 30 minutes. Their gen2 oem battery is less and they will ship if needed.

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    Thanks I really appreciate it, will check them out. Part # one dealer gave me for '06 battery is G9510-47033. Lowest price I can find for that is around $3000-3100 but will keep looking.

    One dealer refused to give me the part number over the phone because he said doing so 'is putting them out of business because people then go online.' In fairness to them they are charging the actual MSRP.
     
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    Closest to newest OEM under $2K would be Professor Joe's Gen4 Prius modules for $1799 with 4 year warranty. Those modules are usually way less than ten years old: Prius Battery Deal: $1799 Refurbished OEM Cells
     
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    Thanks I saw previous reference to Gen2 for $2k. Apparently Toyota doubled the MSRP late last year from $1650 to $3300. Sounds odd but that's what people are saying. The cheapest I was able to find the Gen2 OEM battery online is $2805 plus core.
     
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    The reality is Toyota sells to the dealers around 50% msrp. The online dealers discount at varying rates but I have seen 35% on occasion plus Toyota Corp has nationwide parts sales that add.

    As a good example a dealer in Canada is selling one for $1722 US.
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    I also see $2805 but Hometown Hybrids is less.
     
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    If you have no money and plenty of time then you're going to play so there's always that The battery guy who's into this stuff my guy can process likes 56 modules at one time so it kind of goes pretty quick you know You can get through and sort through that many that fast Guess it makes the going pretty good more or less when you're sitting at home with a hobby charger it's quite a bit different but if you have nothing but time in an outlet or receptacle of the case maybe then have added I guess My generally don't have that kind of time like watching the grass grow or paint dry or something.
     
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    And this is a worldwide problem battery shortage is everywhere so if you use a battery in your car right now you're kind of screwed just the way it is batteries are at an all-time high. So right now if you're driving a Corolla without a battery and all that nonsense you might be in better shape than someone driving a Prius oh well they just built the battery plant in Liberty North Carolina right up the road from me I don't know when it goes online and which batteries they're building solid state is supposed to be like 2 years out.