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Meanwhile, this article just came out today. More fossil fool based PR work for Toyota:

Total change in the automotive industry forever – Toyota abandons EVs and takes a step forward with this new engine – no one expected it Total change in the automotive industry forever - Toyota abandons EVs and takes a step forward with this new engine - no one expected it

 

toyota and hydrogen make an explosive couple.

 

Meanwhile...

Toyota to reveal all-new exciting and surprising battery electric vehicle

Featuring a sleek and stylish coupe design combined with elevated driving dynamics and surprising space, comfort & versatility, this all-new battery electric model is inspired by Toyota’s heritage of creating products with strong emotional appeal that bring wider choice to customers.

Stay tuned for the reveal on March 12, 2025, 00:01am CET



Toyota to reveal all-new exciting and surprising battery electric vehicle

 

The full self-driving Toyota bZ3X with an NVIDIA chipset, LIDAR, radar, ultrasound sensors, and eleven cameras goes on sale for $20,000 in China.

It gets about 160 mpge (EPA). In comparison, Tesla gets about 130 mpge. The range is about 200–300 mi (EPA), depending on the battery capacity.

https://insideevs.com/news/752864/toyota-affordable-ev-china-lidar-nvidia-chip/

 

That’s it, I’m moving to china

 

Prius chat problems again

 

I did not find this in the article. Source?

I saw Chinese test cycles but the EPA testing usually reduces the claimed performance to values I can replicate.

Bob Wilson

 

Model being discussed here.
Toyota’s Cheapest EV Ever Costs $15,000, Gets 10,000 Orders In 60 Minutes | PriusChat

The published figures are for CLTC, not WLTC. China's results are more generous; possibly better than NEDC.
https://insideevs.com/features/343231/heres-how-to-calculate-conflicting-ev-range-test-cycles-epa-wltp-nedc/
It will get about 140 mpge on EPA, with 240 miles of range. Still better than the Model Y, but the Tesla also has a hundred miles more range.

Got to calculate mpge from posted range and battery capacity, and then convert between the test cycles.

China is getting the revamped Model Y now. Not enough info out on it for comparison though.

 

I suspected as much. I’ll wait for EPA metrics . . . while the EPA exists.

Bob Wilson

 

Sadly, because you're from a certain famous east coast sea port you're considered a national security threat by the CCP. China ain't gonna have all you crazy Bostonians ruining their tea supply.

 

It's the best we'll get. The sedan version has been out for two years and still China only.

 

Toyota also withheld the Estima hybrid minivan from the USA market yet sold them in Canada.

Bob Wilson

 

I used the data on Wikipedia and conversion factors on Wikipedia.

Toyota bZ3X—Wikipedia

China light-duty-vehicle test cycle (CLTC)—Wikipedia

Note:

mpge = 33.705 kWh/ge × BEV range (mi) / useable BEV battery capacity seen at the 240-V plug (kWh)

 

Having been there recently? I have to say...

The USA seems to be becoming more like them faster than they're becoming more like us.

 

More on the bZ3X.

Toyota bZ3X might break the EV market if it comes stateside—Autoblog

 

a bit of misnomer in that there may be 5% loss converting 240v into DC pack usage (& that's not even discounting for parasitic loss - with so many devices background running nowadays), then reconverting DC voltage into high voltage 3 phase on the way out.
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I did try to include those effects, as well as the unusable buffer on the battery, which is even harder to guess. It is hard to make a conversion. 160 mpge sounds a little high, but perhaps we could still see over 150 mpge. Currently, the highest mpge is Lucid Air Pure RWD with 19-inch wheels Automatic (A1) ACPM with 146 mpge. So, 160 mpge is not that far off.

 

What would the BZ3X cost if it made it here? I'll have to read the articles better. This would be kind of a dream come true car if it came to the USA. I want one, simple because of the apparent price and range and brand. It's a little ugly in my opinion, but looks practical.

 

50k

 

Ouch! No thank you. I think I'll buy a Honda Grom as my daily commuter.