~6 years old, ~148,000 mi, 83% battery (17% lost capacity) 2.84% lost capacity per year (17% / 6) 0.12% lost capacity per 100,000 miles (17% / 148) 70% Tesla warranty (expired) threshold (13% remaining) ~4.5 years to battery expiration (13% / 2.84% per yr) ~108,000 mi to battery expiration (13% / 0.12% per 100k mi) End of Life 10.5 years (6 + 4.5) 256,000 miles (148 + 108) Bob Wilson
I found a 2022 Model 3 with transferable Full Self Driving (FSD) on HW 3.0 for a reasonable price to replace my 2017 BMW i3-REx. But upon further reflection, I realized that HW 4.0 was more important than FSD. Software developers (and managers) hate to 'waste time' on older hardware. So there is an intermediate period when both are maintained but eventually, the newer hardware wins and the older hardware becomes "End of Life." But there is another wild-card: Do I want to be dependent on a single EV maker? I'm an Apple laptop and iPhone buyer. I've also got some disposable PCs running Debian Linux but only as needed. As for Microsoft . . . need not apply. Microsoft burned that bridge 50 years ago. Employers forced me to use Microsoft at work effectively holding my nose to the poop: Bob Wilson
my 12 year old macbook pro is still working for my needs. the touch pad gets wonky in humidity for some reason. best to keep it in the a/c
I drove a Model 3 a few years ago, and was very tempted. I went home and added up the numbers, and since I already had a Prius, there was an advantage, but it just wasn't enough even when my wife puts on 100 miles going to work each day. There's also no visible support anywhere in this state. I know they have remote Tesla maintenance, but I just didn't have a good feeling about qualified mechanics and parts suppliers. Maybe if I lived in Denver (where I test drove the car). With Musk and his latest shenanigans, these days no way (but that's an entirely different story). Musk claimed they were working on a $25K EV, then it was off again, then it was on again - perhaps in China because BYD sells theirs for $17K... I think I'll be waiting for a long time on that one. @bwilson4web It's informative to hear how long a Model 3 really lasts. I'm sure there are going to be many variations on the answer, like what generation battery, what percentage of time was the car fast-charged... I looked at a Hyundai Ioniq 6 a couple of months back. The dealer had a brand new 2023 I think they'd make a deal on. (The dealer web site lists it at the sticker price, but I saw it on AutoTrader for $35K. It's the same sort of thing though. The nearest dealer is in another state, and I'm in the middle of this one. There's no visible local support for a Hyundai EV. I still think about offering them that $25K, just to see how badly they want to get rid of a vehicle they've had on their lot for 2+ years now. I also looked at a Ford Mach-E. I just wasn't all that impressed. They at least have a local dealer, with mechanical and parts support. Even in this EV hostile state. The salesman made the mistake of telling me they can't sell what Ford made them take, and "they're practically giving them away". (EVs aren't all that popular in the "oil city". It made me think of just giving them a very low-ball bid, give them my phone number, walk away and see if they call. Still, I'm just not that impressed with the thing. Maybe it's $22 or 23K for that one... Even then, the $ saved (in MPGe, oil changes...) versus a Prius just isn't enough to make it worth it. I still believe there's an "electric revolution" on the way. But for now, the manufacturers keep putting in the large format (distracting) multimedia (where's the damn volume knob) navigation (but the map's 3+years out of date and I have google on my phone if I really need it) display. I drove cars when all I needed was a "stick and a radio" for years and that got me everywhere I needed to go.
Tesla App uses local gasoline prices for the gas equivalent Other - free charging either at motel or shopping areas I have two cars: 2019 Model 3 Std Rng Plus - primary car for cross country but alternate with the BMW i3-REx. Typically covers 1,200 mi for $78 in Supercharger fees. Five seats, typically 4 mi/kWh, 150,000 miles, Full Self Driving. 2017 BMW i3-REx - city car, 106 mi EV, but carries a modified motorcycle engine and generator for cross country. Recently completed 1,140 mi trip for ~$93 in gas (mid-grade.) Four seats, typically 3.7 mi/kWh, 75,000 miles, human driving. Bob Wilson
