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  1. Stu9

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    Do you get the back hub off, I have a new one to put on but the old one is seized solid. I tried heat, stilsons etc etc nothing will move it.

    I can't get behind it properly because of the disc shield and because it's in good condition I don't want to cut it and break it off.

    So how the hell do I get this dam thing off.
     
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    I've seen many tik-tok videos where they simply transfer the weight of the vehicle to the end of the breaker bar or other tool to get stuck parts loose.
     
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    Rusty hub jobs, yay.

    You probably got the bolts out with no particular fuss and are now simply facing a hub that won't budge.

    There are many threads around here with ideas.

    I got a rear hub out of my gen 1 using a conventional slide hammer puller and many many many whacks, leaving my arm very very tired.

    I would be inclined to try an air hammer next time. I think I would aim it tangentially to the base of the hub, try and get the thing to turn a little. Turn it enough and maybe move the threaded holes out of alignment with the clear-bored ones. Then there are additional options like running bolts into the threaded holes to press with.

    If using a slide hammer, I recommend leaving a couple bolts in, by the first couple threads. That way when the thing at last does move, it comes out that far and stops, and doesn't send you back on your duff with a slide hammer, hub, disc shield, and miscellaneous brake parts.

    The shield did come off with my hub. I then separated them by kind of remounting the hub with spacers behind it, then driving the shield backward by tapping with a drift, all around where it fits over the hub. Worked ok, I reused the shield.

    Oh, there was a lot of penetrating oil used, too.
     
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    I thought of that but it's only a stilson I could use on the hub. But the way I had the trolley jack under it it would catch on a bar.
     
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    Yes all the bolts came off without a problem. I haven't got a slide hammer or access to a compressor.
    I have a heavy duty 3 leg puller but as there is no centre hole it is no use.
    Yes there was plenty of heat and hammering etc. Maybe if I could get behind it would move, but can't because of the disc shield and the wheel arch ie can't get a good enough swing with the hammer.

    I am really stumped in how to get this off.
     
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    Sometimes the difference between with-right-tools and without-right-tools is big enough to justify extreme measures. Is there anywhere you could borrow or rent some tools?

    Me, I would go straight for a small compressor and an air hammer. I did successfully use a slide hammer once, but once was enough.
     
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    Take a big hammer, and a punch. Hit the hub to rotate it clockwise and counter clockwise.
    Use lose of rust penetrant. Move it maybe an inch or so, then to the other way. And smack the hub
    a few time. As you rotate it, it will free up and loosen. Hitting, away from car, will ease it out.
    Penetrant will help it free up.
    You'll likely see it slowly creeping out. You can try a chisel between the surfaces at 180 degrees
    to hammer in, not TOO hard or deep. This will help move it out. It may take a while, but a lot less work
    and stress on you.

    Once it is off, use a wire brush, sandpaper, etc., to clean up the matting surface and apply antisieze to keep the
    new hub from ending up the say way.
    If you rotate it enough, you can use a bolt to thread through to put pressure on two spots 180 degrees apart.
    then smack it with the hammer, tighten bolt, repeat....

     
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    I know what you say but as I said already, I can't get behind it because of the disc shield. I have also hit it hard where the bolt holes are with a chisel to try and "move" it round a bit to break it but nope.
     
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    An air hammer can whack it two thousand times a minute.

    By the time I got mine off with a slide hammer, I felt as if I'd whacked it two thousand times. Took me a lot longer than a minute.
     
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    Some have had success with strategically placed threaded rod and nuts:

    Solved, rear wheel bearing removal, easy way | PriusChat

    I would think apply some pressure, then whack around with heavy ball-peen or light sledge hammer, repeat, till it hopefully breaks loose.
    no personal experience.
     
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    Yep and zi personally loose the back plate have em off all cars since oh about 97 or so but on drum brakes you stuck . Then I was adding rear disc usually Celica and Corolla models AE86 Hachiroku cars
     
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    What does that mean.
     
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    I was tempted to break it off but it looks quite new so that is holding me back.
    I looked at the post Mendel put up and will try the idea of the bolts. If that doesn't work, then maybe a slide hammer (need to buy one though). If that doesn't work it will get binned.
     
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    You don't need to get behind it. ROTATE it.
    Some use an air hammer to rotate it, but if you don't have that......



     
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    I tried that if you read my post, I had 2ft stilsons on the bearing bit with a pole on them and still wouldn't "rotate". I also tried the chisel, blow torch (a strong one) it won't bloody move.
     
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    One of my favourite channels:



    there’s a much older video by him too, same subject; the battle was protracted. He’s got it down to routine now.
     
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    Pointless showing that, yes would be great if I had all that stuff but don't.
     
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    Many retail auto parts places, here in the US anyway, will allow you to pay a deposit on a tool and take it home, use it on your job, and return it and get your deposit back.

    Certainly for hand tools like a slide hammer. I've never checked for something more involved like a compressor and an air hammer. But even if there is no free borrowing, renting should be an option.

    I have lived in places where the public library had a tool section.
     
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    I would need to hire a compressor etc and would cost a bloody fortune here rip off Britain.
    I don't think I will have this much longer between the egr and the ticking time bomb hg, no thanks I think I will stick to the gen2 if any.
     
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