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Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by tochatihu, Oct 22, 2015.

  1. ChapmanF

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    For areas where coverage is poor. Your pitching arm needs to be really good.
     
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    Over 1,000 dead so far, according to this morning’s news :(
     
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    I still do not see the link I tried to post here another try

    https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us7000pn9s/pager

    Myanmar besides being poor is for years in civil war (maybe they do not call it that) and military bombings continued even after earthquake.

    Some aid has arrived. Mandalay airport control tower has collapsed according to reports. That could be worked around, but not if runways are damaged. Yangon airport (far to the south) is operational.

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    Prompt rescue and recovery are top priorities now 42 hours after. But it is difficult to avoid commenting on building collapse photos already online. I saw one in Mandalay tipped over while two adjacent appeared undamaged. This seems clearly foundation not correctly tied to uppers.

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    Starlink service in region includes only Bhutan. I would hope for more to be added quickly, but it depends on uplink sites.
     
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    When floods are described as "unprecedented" it most often refers to history of instrumented streamflow measurements. Few such records exceed 100 years, to reach beyond is done statistically by probit modeling. This and its limitations are well understood by statisticians, but not by public at large I suppose.

    For some locations, evidence of paleofloods can be compared to modern records. This publication is about that:

    ‘Unprecedented’ recent floods swamped by prev | EurekAlert!

    Science can always be improved upon and it's good to notice when that happens.
     
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    Bristlecone pine forests are very old and one is at least at some risk of burning

    World's oldest trees threatened by California's Silver fire - Los Angeles Times

    Which would qualify as unprecedented during the thousands of years lifespans of trees there. Personally I doubt they will get cooked. It also makes me want someone to look for charcoal in such forest soils which would provide evidence for paleofires. More emails to send ... it's always something ...
     
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    Keystone pipeline flowing again after rupture last week:

    Keystone Pipeline restarted after oil spill in rural North Dakota | AP News

    Because this pipeline was in much earlier media, we can expect that all its problems will get reported. There was an earlier rupture, yes? Anyway, overall delivery and leakage data can be compared to other petro transport systems; trains and trucks. As petro transport will surely continue, it will be good to know performance of different systems.
     
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    Conservative Americans consistently distrust science:

    Conservative Americans consistently distrust | EurekAlert!

    Well, that's as it may be. But I will whip this media writer.

    "Science helps solve major societal problems, such as pandemics and climate change"

    This is clickbait headlining, and "such as" is no cure. Before science was used for societal benefit, innovations were empirical. Steam engines, cotton ginning and 'traditional' plant and animal breeding were 'try a lot of things and see what works well'. Incandescent light bulbs.

    Science changed/superseded this by providing knowledge bases to optimize whatever needed to be made. Electric motors, airplanes, rocket engines, electronics -> microelectronics -> internet. There is a whole lot more to medicine than pandemics!

    If you want to make something new now empirically, have at it. If you want to be efficient, use science.

    Apparently one of my buttons got pushed.

    Anyway, as partial cure to 'Some Americans have gone off the deep end', see also this:

    Scholars disprove existence of ‘crisis of tru | EurekAlert!
     
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    We are too few generations from the Dark Ages and though there have been all to brief periods of enlightenment, mostly our species lives with the legacy of 'conserving' what we've done before;
    • Conservative - doing things as they'd always been done which makes them predictable.
    • Liberal - experimentation to see if there is a better way which leads to opportunity and enlightenment
    By happy accident, my parents encouraged empiricism and having seen the 'dead meat' of conservatives, well I never felt that was a happy way to live. Of course, experiments can have some unpleasant outcomes:
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    Like my four years in the Marines, they can teach valuable lessons like "DON'T DO THAT AGAIN!"

    In one respect, PriusChatters are 'early adopters' who can move beyond ancient, inefficient technology. It is nicer to be with my fellow wizards.

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    I can't remember now what year I learned to stop associating conservatives with conservatism.

    I take conservatism to entail a strong desire to conserve the best of what's been laboriously achieved by the people whose shoulders we stand on. I have a very strong current of that in myself, but that doesn't remotely qualify me to stand among today's so-called conservatives.

    There are a lot of features worth conserving in our US peoplepower or publicthing (use the Greek or Latin word as you prefer), that were laboriously achieved by our founders and forebears, that conservatism would strive mightily to conserve, but conservatives do not.
     
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    Always up for another 'radio astronomy on far side of moon' article:

    Looking at the Universe’s dark ages from the far side of the Moon - Ars Technica

    They all talk about prohibitive HF and VHF emissions on earth, which is fair enough. But the rest of the story goes unstated, unless y'all have seen it somewhere. With no (nada zip) radio transmitters on earth, it will still be a non-ideal place for this. Because it has a thick atmosphere that is rich in ions up yonder. Lower atmosphere has water and vertical temperature gradients that lead to lightning and other electrical discharges. All that means static, and that means high and time-varying noise floors on (at least) the mentioned frequencies.

    Go back before Marconi or even before macaroni, it was already bad. Actually I want to say that all bio-habitable worlds would be similar.

    Bio-habitable worlds: Good places to be, but bad places for many types of astronomy.
     
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    Agricultural soils with toxic metal contamination are a global problem:

    Up to 17% of global cropland contaminated by toxic heavy metal pollution, study estimates | EurekAlert!

    This media summary does not have maps, but link to publication shows all as it is open access.

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    There are many ways to address this. Some crops take up much less of these from soils than others. Conventional or modern genetic breeding can make them worse at it. Fallow crops could be chosen to take up lots, thus clean soils. (to be dumped somewhere), Some mushrooms take up lots, but approach this with caution. Many crops use mycorrhiza for nutrient uptake, and those might do some horizontal gene transfer and acquire metal-uptake capacity from said mushrooms.
     
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    Just made u spell funny.
     
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    PriusChat won't let you say dun no, but will let you say dinna.

    What's for dinna?

    Dun no.
     
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    "many toothpastes contain lead" Well dang that is undesired, Lead packaging ended 2005 (very late!) and remaining must be from poorly chosen ingredients. And lack of govt insight to make it absent in commercial products.

    Lead may be the easiest thing to object to. It is remarkably neuro damaging. It is super easy to detect. Commercial-product formulators will always have lead-free ingredients to chose from. Possibly a few pennies more expensive.

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    Distant past, possibly amusing. In religion class (attached to public school) teacher instructed us "you cannot put toothpaste back in tube". Intending to be helpful, I said "just unwind the bottom end of tube and put it back in there". I received no points for insight.
     
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    Slang used here by me are flourishes to deceive readers that I am 'of you'; not pure distant nerd, not other-govt tool, nor chatbot. Is it workin' ? :D
     
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