P3000 code with new NexPower V2.5 battery

It would be helpful to have the INF code going with the P3000 code, to have a better idea even what kind of problem the HV control ECU is reporting and make sure this use of Dr. Prius isn't barking up the wrong tree.

 

Hi Evan @Evan Armstrong ,

We have discontinued the lithium product line and transition 100% to the much stronger Sodium-ion chemistry, feel free to participate the in-warranty program to receive a brand new V3 GT, which essentially paying for part of the tariff and shipping. The tariff has gone crazy so please do it quickly before the big increase.

Best Regards,
Jack

 

If Dr. Prius is not lying in the readings, then the modules are significantly unbalanced in voltage. Between several adjacent modules, the difference is about 0.3 V, which is the threshold for errors to appear.
The ECU for NIMH modules usually uses charging all modules with increased voltage to equalize the voltage, so that the charged modules wait for the others to charge. In this case, the heat from the charge is dissipated into the environment.
With lithium, this option for equalizing the voltage will not work. From the increased voltage, the already charged modules will simply deteriorate, explode.

 

Without understanding the internal state of the modules, it is difficult to say anything. It may be necessary to replace some of the modules, or it may be necessary to change everything.

Do the warranty conditions provide for a complete replacement?

 

Buying a new set for even more money? Doubtful pleasure.

 

The warnings were there for years now.

 

P3000 can mean a range of things. I would sit tight till I'd seen the INF codes.

 

Dr.Prius the program is not for subcodes, it is more of a visualization of the battery electrical parameters.

And because what happens according to this visualization is a completely normal reaction of the ECU, trying to align the modules by voltage, but not getting the desired result due to another chemical reaction in the modules.

 

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but in Post #4, I think Jack was trying to say since your battery is under warranty, you can get the newest version of the Sodium battery for just the cost of shipping and tariffs (or just a portion of those fees). It's not 100% clear, but certainly someone will jump in to provide clarification.

 

The "In-warranty Lithium-ion to Sodium-ion Battery replacement" price listed on the website as of today is $640. See the link below.
In-warranty Lithium-ion to Sodium-ion battery replacement program– NexPower Energy

Even if you buy a couple of blades to fix your existing V2.5 Lithium-ion battery now, you will again have a problem with the battery pack in another year. Your best bet is to switch to the Sodium-ion battery or the OEM battery.

 

iirc, jack is close to bankrupt dueto battery failure, and cannot commit to replacing batteries under warranty without some kind of trade off with customer assistance.
you're probably gonna have to decide whether to fish or cut bait

 

Apologies for the situation you're in...

Sodium-Ion is better for the planet (lithium mines destroy ecosystems) and they also perform better at both hotter and colder temperatures. They've proven so reliable the world's largest electric car maker in BYD has been selling them in their electric cars for two years now and Jack's connections with China make this the first sodium-Ion high voltage battery product sold in the USA.

It has been rigorously tested for almost two years by Jack and his collegues and is not affected by known failure points of the previous packs. I'm sure if you do some research on Sodium-Ion you'll find some pretty impressive information about the future of affordable batteries that don't ruin the planet. Also there's this FAQ page too: FAQ - NexPower Energy

For perspective, there's more than 4K Nexpower batteries on the road, but the LiFePo4 cell packets have proven unreliable to some customers. For myself, I'm at 55 months with a Nexpower winter testing prototype with no issues, but with a small business it's not easy to survive even a small number of failed packs.

I've watched Jack ship free replacement packs under warranty for years and what was once the right thing to do turned into a massive amount of debt to the point that the people helping him avoid bankruptcy have had to limit his generosity... And then when you add the tariff crisis, despite the latest shipment arriving to port minutes before 125% tarriffs took effect, he's still paying more than $800 a pack in tariffs & other fees at the port.

Similarly, brand new OEM Toyota battery packs are also getting tarriffed and the $1900 for a new OEM pack after core deposit is now up over $3500 in many cases. So the price you're being offered is still a loss to Jack's income, just not as extreme as before, but at least more affordable and better performing than OEM currently is. And you also get to keep your old pack, which you can convert to a 12v or 24v power supply that's doesn't have the same amp loads/stress on it as it does in a vehicle.

 

I have no experience with any of the NexPower Energy batteries.

I would take a chance on the Sodium-Ion battery at $640 + shipping versus a new OEM battery that would cost you $3000 to $3200 at a Toyota parts department or a $1600 refurbished battery. You also need to return a stock OEM battery to get your core deposit back from the Toyota dealership. Do you still have the battery that you took out of the car?