Featured Automated Vehicle Framework (self driving)

what could go wrong?

 

My only experiences with the FSD in the Y I drive were the free trials they've offered me that I agreed to. The trials were just that -- on my nerves. Having the car not to be able to discern where the edge of the road was on the right side of the lane on a very well driven highway due to faintly painted white lines that appeared and disappeared shocked and scared me. Once it couldn't begin driving on the green lights it was supposed to be able to see due to a truck a few vehicles in front of me. Then, seemingly purposely driving the wheels straight into huge potholes, was the point where I was finally done with being a ginnea pig for these experiments in beta software.

 

The new crash reporting rules will result in less reports from Tesla.

• The system needs to be active 30 seconds before the crash, and remain on through the conclusion of the crash to qualify for reporting. Tesla models have already turned off such systems just before impact.
• Minor crashes(just property damage and no air bag deployment) only need to be reported for cars using automated driving systems; that is Level 3 or high. As we know, Tesla calls Autopilot and FSD level 2.

https://www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.gov/files/2025-04/third-amended-SGO-2021-01_2025.pdf

 

If there was a comment period, it has already passed.

"This General Order takes effect on June 16, 2025, and,
as of that date, supersedes NHTSA’s April 5, 2023 Second Amended Standing General Order
2021-01"

 

i use the wall e reference for so many things in life

 

With the changes, it won't be comparable to the old data, which will make any trend changes suspect. Then Level 2 or lower systems exempt from minor crashes means loss of data that could help improve these systems.

As for seeing the data, I'm just curious as to how much this is political gimme to Musk.

 

i'd say 100%

 

This was a plan before the election, and one of the reasons Musk backed Trump. So expect it to be handled in the same manner as the administration handles everything.

 

I was reading an article on the changes coming to Sam's Clubs and their coming scan with a phone app as you pick mode of checkout just after I walked through my local Walmart. Noticed groupings of people in the aisles. A bunch of old farts like me. I bunch of large multi-generational families shopping together in a bunch. And single people doing their grocery list off their phone with their heads down. Not to mention all the Walmart pickers in each aisle with their heads in their phones grabbing items for boxing and delivery to the waiting cars.

I was fussing because all these groups slow me down. I like to get in and get out. I often go before 7AM but it was 3 on a Saturday. Of 6 items I wanted, two were in stock. No lettuce or broccoli !!! I went down the street to a Food Lion and it was a conventional grocery style experience. Far fewer people. Found everything and at least 8 more items I wanted just because it was a browsing friendly experience even if a store I frequent only 4 times a year. But is that an economic model that works any more? The full baskets were not at the checkout at this local grocery store. They were at Walmart.

Our Walmart is getting one of the 6 months remodeling efforts. Chaos.

I love Costco. You do your own shopping. They pay their staff relatively well. Can't get everything but worth the effort and ours is 45 minutes away so our quarterly trip bill is usually more than $400. Full SUV with 4 large Styrofoam freezer boxes. I think it might be Irish stew night.

Now sure the app driven self checkout is efficient and cuts down on staffing costs and maybe saves on self checkout shrinkage. But how many folks will it drive down the street because they can't handle the screen driven world.

There are lots of people who could buy an EV but won't from anyone who forces a screen driven interface on them. I am one. I would be Bob 4-5 years ago except for that. No way my wife could ever drive that car. I watch my national merit from a tech school with several degrees son drive his MY and see he still fumbles and multi-punches after several years.

And pay $8k for automated driving for what I want/need when for my Toyota'19 it was free? I don't even buy any Toyota subscription services now.

 

My Prius disables any apps which might "distract" you from the road.
BMW, on the other hand encourages you to watch You Tube while you drive.

 

we shop at the local grocery stores. very busy, carts full. dil loves target for food shopping