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  1. hill

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    Comparing Mass torture starvation murderers like Stalin / Hitler / Chairman Mao / Pol Pot etc. .... many millions each.
    Mao?

    Mao's Great Leap Forward 'killed 45 million in four years' | The Independent | The Independent

    No one in the present day competes. Saying so diminishes the millions who suffered & even the family members that survived.
     
    #2661 hill, Apr 25, 2025 at 10:13 PM
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    'has the human enterprise been slowed'? i'd have to know what the human enterprise is.
    is there a definition, or an individual belief system? (n)
     
    #2662 bisco, Apr 26, 2025 at 2:03 PM
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    I often mention The human enterprise here and will offer my definition. Human activities seem a different and larger concept, being all of them. Human enterprise is the subset of activities directed at least in part towards an increase in welfare, or enrichment, of one or more persons.

    When we think of any enterprise, that is its purpose - agreed?
     
    #2663 tochatihu, Apr 30, 2025 at 5:42 PM
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    #2664 tochatihu, Apr 30, 2025 at 5:44 PM
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    Coffee, China, and sleepy Yunnan Province.

    A bit of coffee is grown in Yunnan:

    https://www.terradaily.com/reports/Chinese_tea_hub_branches_into_coffee_as_tastes_change_.99.html

    There are things to consider. Coffee (arabica) has the highest sensitivity to atmospheric dryness of any woody plant yet measured. Tea (Camellia sinensis) appears not to have been examined in this regard. I have nagged other researchers about that :rolleyes:

    With climate change, optimal growing places for Arabica coffee will move to higher elevations. There is remarkably little concern for this.

    Tea and coffee generate largest global revenues of any 'woody' crops. Not apples or similar. Not bananas; they are not 'woody', Cannabis may have a shot but it is mired in legal issues. Also it would lead to more navel contemplation and not necessarily advance The Human Enterprise.

    As I shall soon report to whatever high journal accepts article, 'woody' crops are much more sensitive to atmospheric dryness than annual crops. Considering revenue$ involved, this aspect of climate change gets remarkably little attention.

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    I grind beans and have one pour-over cup of coffee each morning. I get beans from Shanghai that probably come from Vietnam.

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    There are about 6500 Starbucks in China vs, about 17000 in US. In both, this retail upselling activity is doing pretty well. It persists as inexpensive source supplies persist.
     
    #2665 tochatihu, Apr 30, 2025 at 7:01 PM
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    coffee production and transportation is complicated. we get our starbucks breakfast blend from amazon.
    i read an article in the nyt which triggered some questions about fair trade and etc.
    after some research, i gave up and haven't switched from the current plan.
     
    #2666 bisco, Apr 30, 2025 at 8:53 PM
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    If ya like starbucks - 2 flavor brands / steps above? Pete's & green mountain .... YUM!
     
    #2667 hill, Apr 30, 2025 at 10:17 PM
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    The ratio of robusta produced annually has been steadily growing. I suspect the differences between the two doesn't matter to most coffee drinkers.
    The rise of Robusta coffee - Global Coffee Report
    Hemp could do a lot of good just in replacing trees for paper. Guessing we can find other industrial uses for it.
     
    #2668 Trollbait, May 1, 2025 at 10:17 AM
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