Rear Brake Caliper Piston Not Depressing

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  1. Seth the Younger

    Seth the Younger Junior Member

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    I serviced my rear caliper pins today and changed the brake pads on the driver side caliper. I have the little magic cube to depress the caliper piston, but no matter how much I spun it, it would not depress at all. I tried to apply as much pressure as I could to help it engage, but no luck. After spinning it plenty, I thought maybe it could reverse threaded even though I was almost certain it wasn't. It started to come out even further immediately, but now it won't go back in even to the original spot.

    It seems like the screw must be engaged because it backed out just fine when I spun counter-clockwise. I thought maybe there was too much hydraulic pressure to overcome and the screw jack thing might slip a little by design. I made a half-hearted attempt to relieve some pressure in the caliper (I just cracked the bolt connected to the flexible hose and let it drip a bit), but I wasn't able to get it to depress with that either.

    Tomorrow, I will plan to rent one of the tools that compresses the piston as it spins it. I might also bleed some more brake fluid if that doesn't work. My next step would probably be to disconnect the caliper entirely and remove the piston (I imagine it comes out though I'm not sure).

    Anybody have any thoughts? Any similar experiences? I read this post ( 2015 Prius 2 rear caliper piston won’t retract | PriusChat ), but it seems like they were able to get it with the cube which is not the case for me.

    Thanks for all the help; with this and over the years of posts.
     
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    I don't know I'm not sure isn't that a fiber piston in that caliber maybe the threads are stripped you're lucky it'll come loose but it won't go back I guess I don't know with pressure going it should run right down without any problem barely with a tool a makeshift to leave and I have the proper tool I'm just saying it can be done without it when it's working it doesn't sound like you have pressure problems or anything like that it sounds like you've got a thread catching problem something's not winding down like it should I mean there's nothing there I don't think I don't have a rear caliper apart
     
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    This is 3rd gen, with manual parking brake? I used a “cube” on a ratchet, when pressed firmly and rotated clockwise it screwed the piston in without drama. Something sounds amiss in your case.

    there’s a spring in there, that acts like a kind of “Chinese Finger Trap”, will only rotate in one direction, cinches up if you rotate the other direction. I’ve never got my head around how things work in there, but maybe something’s failed internally.

    @ChapmanF may be along with more substantive ideas/explanations.
     
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    Yeah I've never unscrewed one and taken the boot off and pulled it completely apart and not sure why rear brakes you know never really too interesting I guess. Now the front's thousands of times but the rear is not so much
     
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    Today's Update:
    I took off the caliper and put it in a bench vice just because I was having difficulty getting leverage. I rented the tool from AutoZone where it compresses the piston as it spins it. Because I had inadvertently backed the piston out further yesterday, I had to use the tool in some creative and unintended ways until I had the clearance to use the tool as intended. See pictures. Using that tool, I was able to get the piston all the way in. It gushed brake fluid from the fluid inlet as I depressed it.

    I haven't installed it back into the vehicle yet because it was getting late, but I plan to test it quite a bit to make sure the piston is behaving properly. I was really hoping I could take it apart and see the inner workings, but I didn't want to go down that road this time around when I had gotten it to depress successfully. My working model is still that there is some designed slip in the screw mechanism, and this was somehow seized or stiff. Obviously it's not completely fixed because it never unscrews when the piston is pushed out. Maybe one of you understands something about the inner workings that nullifies this idea.

    Yes, it is.

    Does anyone happen to know if I can just bleed the air on this one caliber or do I need to do both rear calipers?

    Lastly, I plan to replace this caliper sometime in the next couple months because I have pitting on the sliding pins and in the sliding pin chamber itself. I'll definitely disassemble the piston then and add pictures. Caliper1.jpg Caliper2.jpg Caliper3.jpg
     
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    If you get it to rotate in like it was squeezed down if it wasn't necessary to thread it down the Piston part of it should be working fine you can even test that with 4 lb or so of air just because don't let the Piston pop all the way out I usually put a piece of one by two or one by one in between the piston and the ears on the caliper so when I put the air to it gradually the Piston moves out squashes my piece of wood and stops then I can rotate it back down or in my case squeeze it back down and I see the caliper work I don't hear any air squeeze it back down use my syringe and squirt some fluid and fill up the caliper offer it up for the car bleed it and you shouldn't have to bleed the other one front or rear. It's just the one is undone and we haven't been pumping and doing a bunch of craziness.
     
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    The sliding pin chambers are in the caliper mounting bracket, not the caliper.

    looking at that last pic, with piston fully in, is the rubber bellow around the piston partially prolapsed?
     
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    Yeah you could use rubbers too bad you're not close by I have a drawer full of those things