Heating up of Toyota Prius Wagon third generation

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  1. Lahmar

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    Dear Toyota users,

    I have a quick question. My Toyota Prius Wagon, third generation, year 2013, has recently been showing an overheating warning on the dashboard. After a few instances, the check engine light also appears, which causes the car's speed to be limited.

    In reality, the car drives just in gears 1 and 2. Even on the highway, I can't accelerate anymore.

    I took the car to the garage and we checked the fault codes. The error code P0A93 came up, indicating a possible issue with the inverter cooling pump. I ordered and replaced the part, but the problem still persists.

    The coolant has also been replaced.

    I’ve noticed that when the car heats up, there’s no visible coolant circulation in the reservoir.

    Has anyone experienced this issue before? What was the solution in your case?
     
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    That can be one of many problems including most likely a blown head gasket.

    Best get it off the road, diagnosed and fixed or you will definitely be in for an engine
     
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    Thank you very much for your response and feedback.

    I would like to kindly ask what exactly you mean by the head gasket. In the inverter and cooling system circuit, there is a water pump, an inverter, a reservoir, and several hoses.

    However, I do not see any gaskets there.

    If you could assist me further and clarify what exactly you mean by the head gasket, I would greatly appreciate it.

    Thank you again for your time and support.
     
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    did you replace it with an oem pump from a dealer?

    are there 12 volts at the pump connector?
     
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    1. You need to make sure the new inverter coolant pump is working properly.
    2. You need to check and make sure your electronic engine coolant pump is also working properly.

    I'm going to assuming you know where each coolant pump is located and which one you replaced and which reservoir you should be checking. Engine overheat is NOT logged in the OBD2 error logs, so if you don't monitor your engine operating temperature - you could be slowly destroying your engine - continuously running it HOT.

    Hope this helps.........
     
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    I will follow your steps. However, I think I will first take the car to the garage and put it on the lift. Then I will check whether there is any voltage at the connector going to the heat pump.

    After that, I plan to drain the coolant from underneath the car — not from the top. Then, I will blow compressed air through the entire coolant circuit to clean it out.

    Once everything is flushed, I will close the system, refill it with coolant, and bleed it. Then I will observe what results this brings.

    If there is no voltage at the pump connector, it likely means that a relay — the one responsible for sending power to the pump — is defective. It could also be that the sensor inside the inverter is not sending a signal to activate the heat pump.

    I will keep you informed. Thank you again for your kind support and for thinking along with me so far.
     
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    I just returned from the garage. I placed the car on the lift and had the coolant replaced.

    Then I measured the voltage at the connector attached to the inverter heat pump. The electrician confirmed that there is power present.

    The pump has four pins: a positive and a negative. The other two pins are likely intended for signals from a sensor to switch the pump on and off.

    However, I do not know where these signals come from, as I do not have access to a specific wiring diagram.

    Despite replacing the coolant and checking the connector, the pump still does not operate.

    I drove the car for a short while afterward, but unfortunately, the issue remains unchanged.‍♂️
     
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    This is the head gasket (item (1), highlighted in yellow):
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    It's sandwiched in the engine, between the cylinder head (23) and the engine block (22)

    It's common for coolant to start leaking past the head gasket into combustion chambers, around your miles. I believe it to be due to carbon build-up in the EGR system, including the intake manifold (has EGR passages), the yellow highlighted components:
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    Symptoms of head gasket failure are:

    1. Dropping coolant level in engine coolant reservoir
    2. Engine shaking on cold-starts.

    In my signature there's links related to head gasket failure, and EGR cleaning. On a phone you'll need to turn it landscape to see signatures.
     
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    Odds are good the inverter coolant pump issue is unrelated to the engine head gasket. However not seeing movement or rippling in the reservoir (driver's side) means it is not working.

    The pump should always run in Ready mode.

    Be sure you check the connector's power and ground. Power to chassis bypasses the pump's ground circuit which could be bad (unlikely).

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    The pump speed in controlled by a pulse train pwm input (pin 3) and the ecu receives a pulse train rpm (pin 2) feedback. These require an oscilloscope or scope meter to check properly although the wiring continuity can be verified with a standard ohm check.

    My bet is the replacement inverter pump is bad. Almost guaranteed if it was aftermarket or used.

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    Thank you very much for your response and for thinking along with me about the issue. In the meantime, I've been busy googling and researching. Through ChatGPT, I found a wiring diagram. I suspect the problem lies with the ECU — these are the pins that control the pump. I'm going to take the car to a garage to have this further investigated.

    I live in the Netherlands, and the dealer here was extremely expensive. That's why I take my car to an independent garage, although I often have to assist and explain things myself. What exactly should they do?

    I was charged around 560 euros for 2.5 liters of coolant and cleaning the cooling system. The hourly labor rate is 160 euros. That’s why I decided to investigate the issue myself and bring the car to a garage so I can tell them exactly what needs to be done.

    Below, I’ve included a link to an expert who clearly explains how to measure where the problem might be.

    Once again, thank you very much for your help. I’ll have my car examined and will keep you updated. Thanks again!
     
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    I would give odds that favor a problem with the pump itself or wiring damage ahead of the ECU itself. Not that an ECU problem is completely impossible, just quite rare in practice. (For some reason, there seems to be a strong human tendency to lean completely the other way and think "I wonder if it's the ECU?" whenever anything weird happens.)
     
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    Why do I think the ECU is the problem? Because one of the ECU’s functions is to control the pump and manage the discharge of the hybrid battery. The issue started about five months ago. When I get out of the car and try to close the door, I receive an electric shock. This happens every time I attempt to shut the door. I suspect the discharge is occurring through me. I believe the ECU is not properly handling or processing the discharge process. That’s when the issues began, in my opinion. Based on my research, managing the discharge is a crucial function of the ECU.
     
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    A shock felt when exiting the car is nearly always a matter of static charge built up between your clothes and the seat or between the tires and the ground or both.

    The car's high-voltage system is carefully isolated from all the body metal and from the low-voltage systems in the car. Any damage to that isolation fails a self-test the car constantly runs when READY, and will be reported as a P0AA6 code.

    The system's goal is to have the traction battery never fully charged and never fully discharged, but rather hanging right around 60% ideally, sometimes as low as 40% or as high as 80%. The 'discharge' function you may have read about would be taking the remaining charge off the capacitors inside the inverter, after the battery has already been isolated when the car shuts down. But again, even if that were not happening, a lingering charge on those capacitors could give you a shock if you took the inverter cover off and shoved your hand in, but not out at the car body, unless with a serious physical failure of isolation between the two, generally reported with a P0AA6 code.

    I offer a general caution around the phrase "based on my research", just because it's a phrase so many different people use with huge differences between the things they do that they call 'research', and some of those things can lead to pretty good answers and some not so much.

    The more promising lines of research often start in the car's repair manuals:

    Toyota Service Information and Where To Find It | PriusChat
     
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    I have an appointment at a garage this coming Wednesday. There, I will measure all the wire pairs using an oscilloscope to check the frequencies and their corresponding standards. I will let you know the outcome afterwards. In any case, thank you very much for your feedback.