Heating up of Toyota Prius Wagon third generation

Discussion in 'Prius v Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Lahmar, May 16, 2025.

  1. rjparker

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    Brian is correct, in American English "heat pump" means an air conditioning system that can reverse and also pump heat inside. An inverter coolant pump in your Prius moves coolant through the inverter and down to the transaxle. Sometimes people call it an inverter water pump.
     
  2. Lahmar

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    I completely agree with you. However, what’s strange is that when I removed the original Inventer water pump from the car and compared it with the new one, I tested both using a 12-volt battery and they both ran. So, I took out the original and installed the aftermarket one. Before installing it, I tested it and heard it running, so I assume it works.

    By the way, I’m referring to the Inventer water pump from the heat pump system of the hybrid system, not the water pump of the petrol engine.
     
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    Good evening everyone,

    I would like to provide you with an update regarding the overheating issue of the hybrid system. I have since installed an original water pump. I also had an electrician carry out electrical measurements. The results showed that both the 12-volt power supply and the signal from the ECU are properly reaching the water pump connector.

    It’s important to mention that this vehicle has two ECUs: one for the petrol engine, and the other for the hybrid system, which is integrated into the inverter itself.

    However, I still haven’t been able to verify whether the feedback signal from the pump to the ECU is functioning correctly.

    I’ve added a link to a video in which I clearly explain how the problem occurs. When I drive on the highway at high RPMs, the issue comes back: the dashboard displays an overheating warning. After that, the car loses power and the engine speed drops.
    At that moment, the engine warning light (engine management light) turns on. At the same time, both fans of the main radiator start running at full speed.

    In other words, I haven’t made any progress and I’m still dealing with the same issue.
    I’m now considering replacing the inverter.

     
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    I'm not sure where you are getting this information. Your vehicle has around two dozen ECUs, including one for the petrol engine, one inside the inverter (the "MG ECU"), and one (the "power management control ECU") likely located behind the glove box (at least that's where it is in a gen 3 liftback).

    The inverter cooling pump signals are wired to the power management control ECU, unless they radically changed things from the liftback of the same generation.

    You can verify the RPM feedback from the pump to the ECU by watching the RPM displayed on a suitably-capable scan tool.
     
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    While the transaxle uses continuously variable gear ratios and not discrete gears 1 or 2, your video sounds like the engine is rev'ing excessively high just to get to 100 kmh (62 mph).

    Recommend monitoring engine rpm, inverter pump rpm and inverter coolant temps.

    If you have a clogged catalytic converter or a severely dragging brake, the system would "gear down" to reach speed causing high engine rpms.

    Car Scanner App (typical - not showing engine rpm)
    Car scanner six temps and wps.jpeg

    Still no inverter coolant fluid movement? The above makes me think your inverter water pump may not be getting ground as discussed previously. Did your guy check the pump's 12v and ground at the pump's wiring connector?
     
  6. Lahmar

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    Dear rjparker,

    A whining (howling or humming) sound during acceleration in a Toyota Hybrid is often completely normal. Here’s why:

    Why do you hear that sound?

    Toyota Hybrid models, such as the Prius, use a CVT (Continuously Variable Transmission). This allows the engine to run at a constant RPM during acceleration, which improves fuel efficiency. As a result, it may sound like the engine is “whining” or “revving” when you press the accelerator, especially during strong acceleration.

    When is it normal?

    During rapid acceleration (e.g. merging onto the highway).

    When driving uphill or under heavy load.

    When the engine has not yet reached full operating temperature.
     
  7. Lahmar

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    Good afternoon,

    Yes, the problem has finally been resolved. I feel that true craftsmanship is hard to find these days. I went to the dealership and saw several mechanics, but in the end, I went to another garage. There, they simply followed the coolant lines using air pressure and discovered that the coolant wasn’t circulating in the hybrid system because the hybrid radiator was completely clogged.

    The mechanic ordered a new radiator for me for €110. He charged €150 for the installation and labor. With that, the problem was completely solved.

    The dealership charges €180 per hour. They start a new diagnostic process each time, with a new strategy. Before you know it, you're paying €2,000 or €3,000 to solve a relatively small issue.

    I'm now going to visit the dealer and confront them. After they saw that there was oil in the reservoir, they told me they would clean the entire hybrid system circuit. If they had truly done that properly, they should have found the blocked radiator. In my opinion, they didn’t do that. It feels like no proper cleaning was actually carried out.

    In any case, the issue is now resolved. I sincerely thank all of you for thinking along with me and sharing your advice. I wish you a pleasant day, a healthy year, and cars without problems!
     

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    Any idea what it was clogged with?
     
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    No, sorry,
    I honestly have no idea. For me, it was simply a matter of the radiator being clogged — replacing it with a new one and that was it. That was the quickest solution for me, and I was satisfied with it. I didn’t investigate any further.
     
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    Just a small update. Since I replaced the radiator, the issue of electric shocks when turning off and stepping out of the car has also disappeared. I suspect that the lack of coolant circulation in the system may have caused a magnetic field or electrical charge, which led to me receiving an electric shock when exiting the vehicle. I just wanted to add this as an extra update.
     
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    Glad it finally got resolved.
    Here we knickname them Stealerships.
    Too often the newer tech's simply go by the shop service manual diagnostic steps with no regard to reality.
    Pete