Short version: I had a Check Hybrid Status and check engine and various codes last week in my 2011 with 290k miles. Those all went away by themselves, but they scared me enough. I know a lot of pricey repairs are, or might be, upcoming: HV battery replacement, head gasket, brake actuator, water pump, inverter (covered by warranty). But I love this dang car, part of me still wants to make it to 1 million. Do I replace HV battery and drive until inevitably (?) things get worse; or sell now for maybe $3.5k and get some decent used car? Long version: Two years ago I got as my first car my parents’ 2011 now with 290k miles, dad did 5k oil changes religiously, EGR cleaned at 260k after maybe 8 months of mild-moderate cold shakes, original HV battery, 12V replaced with third party 6-7 yrs ago, original water pump and inverter. I suspect an overheating incident occurred one humid afternoon last week: when I went to the car after lunch, auto doors didn’t respond, variety of warning lights (brake ABS steering etc) plus Check Hybrid System, sometimes check engine light. Threw a bunch of sort-of uncommon codes for electronic communication including U0293 P2532 P3107 U0100 U0129 U0151 C1242 etc. However, I let the car sit totally off for 5 hours as evening and cool air came. By then the only messages were CHS and check engine light, then just CHS, then just CEL. This all happened on <2 ticks of gas, the next morning I had only CHS, I filled tank to half, and CHS went away. Since then no lights or messages have reappeared. After gas I took it to my local hybrid shop. From my description they weren’t totally sure about overheating, but they did say old HV/12V can do weird stuff, and they did confirm low gas does weird stuff with the car’s electric system. They cleared codes, did a short drive and didn’t see ANY codes return. I’ve taken it on gradually longer drives, yesterday three 1-hour drives with both highway and local, and monitored with Dr Prius. The one and only code that’s reappeared was U0129, which lasted through un- and re-plugging the 12V as well. But… I cleaned the hybrid fan for the car’s first time last week (I know I know) and battery temps went down from 110F after 10 minutes to maybe 80-90F after 10 minutes. Moreover, U0129 has disappeared. According to Dr Prius I now have no codes at all, battery or engine. I have not noticed drops in performance or strange sounds/behavior in gas engine, electric motor or regen braking. Braking has arguably felt… meh? for years now, it responds quickly but doesn’t slow the car that quickly if that makes sense. I drove a 2025 rental (non-hybrid) car recently and the brakes felt much more punchy. But I can hear the actuator sounding normally and at normal times, and also I definitely need a brake fluid flush, the fluid is very dark brown / almost black. Repairs wise: The one good Toyota dealer within 60mi of me can’t do work without a CEL or system message etc. They offered to take a look at historical codes from my system in a few weeks. I am eligible for the inverter extended warranty, and my symptoms check out, but I didn’t get any of those key codes that would qualify me for sure. The warranty covers inverter replacement even without codes if I’ve suffered the symptoms, but I have no proof (didn’t take a video of the incident, and symptoms haven’t returned). My dad booked a DTC appointment with this car’s dealer, but that’s a few weeks and 600 miles away. Also concerned what they can do without any current DTCs. My hybrid shop (that is, the one shop in my small town that even works on / has training on hybrid engines) thinks the HV might be giving up the ghost. Wants to do full inspection before recommending anything like replacement. OEM HV battery plus labor would be $4000, inverter plus labor $1-2000. They charge $175/h diagnosis, which they estimate can take 2-3hr and is separate from the labor they’d charge for any solution. I do trust them (they have a Prius Three as shop car!) but it’s still a high price. My questions: Is the hybrid shop diagnosis worth it? I have no clue what is even damaged at this point if anything. Is my HV too old? Was it the old 12V freaking out in the heat? I also don’t know if anything up front (water pump, inverter, head gasket) is damaged. I think the shop can get clear answers but a possibly $500 inspection seems like a lot. So what are the odds I did have something mechanical damaged from the suspected overheating incident? Should I just wait for the dealer inspection in a few weeks? I’d love to keep this car going. My parents feel like it’s not worth the hassle - the EGR cleaning last summer already gave my mom doubts, but I’m willing to do that level of work DIY to keep the car going like my dad did. (He’s on the fence.) I am down to go refurbished for the battery to save $2k, or scrounge dealerships for a discounted OEM and install myself, and find a deal for OEM 12V. If I do these replacements, and continue regular maintenance: How long should I vaguely expect the car to go before other major issues like head gasket, brake actuator, water pump, inverter, etc? Say I plug $4k into this car (coming up on new tires soon) and get 2-3 fine years out of it before more stuff breaks. Would that be preferable to trading in for ballpark $3.5k, then buying say a 2019 Prius with 100k for $15k? That would eventually have major maintenance too, but way down the line. Feels like it’s way more upfront cost for more peace of mind plus useless infotainment, unless there’s something I’m missing? Or a 2019 Yaris with 100k for like $10k. Am I just freaking out about buying my “first” car? Thanks in advance for any advice.
What does Dr Prius show for the battery health? The hybrid battery dying could be the cause of it all. You could buy a new cylindrical cell battery from Electron for $2,199.00 - as with anything it's a risk. But replacing the battery yourself isn't hard at all. But first, I'd replace that 12v. A weak 12v can also cause all sorts of goofy stuff.
I have yet to complete the health test, first because flooring the two pedals doesn’t charge the battery for me even after over a minute (the percent charge doesn’t go up), and second because there’s no convenient big hill close to me to charge up the battery. I will look into Electron. Looking into cheaper options for refurb/OEM, a shop an hour away can do OEM plus install and lifetime warranty for $2900, so that’s a possible option.
Wait - they will do a brand new OEM plus install for $2,900? Dang - go for that. I'd be 1000% sure it's a brand new OEM Toyota pack and not refurbished. That sounds too good to be true.
I know right?? I actually just called them a few hours ago to ask how - his answer is he buys wholesale from dealerships over 50 a year, and he’s not greedy. He does need to confirm with dealership before he gives an official quote. I’m hoping it’s not far above $3000. He seems honest and trustworthy (Motorcells in Noblesville IN). I explained my dilemma with the engine and whether to sell now, and he said my reasoning is valid and didn’t push me one way or the other. The car’s also a-ok so far, no incidents since two weeks ago. I will replace the water pump, thermostat/housing, and both coolants in a few weeks while I keep thinking.
Well let us know how it goes if you replace it. I'd be interested on the before/after MPG and if it does clear up any issues. My 2011 has way less miles, 167k or so, and I'm getting a consistent 38-39 mpg in town.
Just drove 10 hours highway today. Various observations The OBDii sensor for “Water Pump Running” stayed at 0 the whole drive. Brief Googling is inconclusive to whether this is typical for this car. I’m preventatively replacing the pump and thermometer regardless. “Cooling Fan 0” (radiator) varies between 50 and ~80% once car is warm. Coolant temp stays at 185-195 F for normal roads at 75mph, and peaks at 215 for very steep hills at nearly full “PWR” for over a minute. These are within typical range, so my cooling system must still be at least adequate. Sometimes upon engine cold start and sometimes when pedaling to engine start while driving, there is a single moderately strong “thump” at the beginning of the engine revving up. This sound is hard to reproduce. Unclear what this means for now. I got full battery bars at some point after exiting and did the Dr Prius life expectancy test. Result is 43.34%, with battery “running out” after about 320 seconds. MPG is not atypical, 48-52 dropping to 43-47 for steep hills. This was also carrying lots of additional pounds of equipment and other belongings, so not bad at all. This week I’ll replace the water pump + thermo as well as the 12V, then see how things are going.
Whatever you are using, it ain't working! Obviously your coolant pump is running, or the engine would be overheating. And since your radiator fan is working, more evidence. But if you are running your ac, both fans will run.
These are all 'loss off communication' codes. I think before replacing any parts you should wait to see if they come back. If you are on your original head gasket then you are on the cusp of it failing (which might be already happening), so I'd especially be avoiding any 'guess' repairs until that happens.