I recently went from 185/95/15 tires to 195/65/15. I needed to buy 2 185’s due to them being bald and I got a good deal on a set of 4 Goodyear Assurance 195’s so decided to go with the matching set of Goodyear’s. Before the swap, I had the TPMS light on due to there being a spare in the rear (or so I believe). The TPMS indiocator would blink for about a minute then stay on. I went to the tire shop to swap the tires and they inflated the 195’s to their correct pressure and TPMS light went away, it was only off for about 20 minutes then came back on. I have read that when switching tire sizes, you need to “relearn” the TPMS sensors and do the procedure that requires you pressing and holding the TPMS button next to the KEY button on the kick panel, I have tried that already and the TPMS indicator still blinks at startup for about a minute then stays on solid. Never had any issues with the TPMS before so wondering if im missing something.
Are these the original TPMS sensors? If so, then the battery or batteries are dead and you'll need new ones. SM-S936U ?
Yes, they are the OEM sensors. Would AP200 scan tool tell me which one is the culprit? I do not see any TPMS codes when I use my scanner which is why I ask.
The ap200 allows you to dial in 45 sensor numbers in 1 go that you just mounted on car I think in the data set that you can view on your computer you can see the actual tire pressures and I I think culprit sensor will not display or give wild readings compared to stable others but I believe you can see the pressure readings live. Like going down road cold and tire press going up as tyre heats. Good luckI changed in green 08 to 195 did nothing but slap tyres on 15 rims mount n go . Light flashed like a minute then off forever this is like 4 weeks ago . Sensors were mounted to 185 originally for like four weeks to 195 mounted
If you don't at present have a scan tool that can show you TPMS codes: Blink (a/k/a Flash) Codes – How to. | PriusChat
I took out my GM re learn tool and held to my Toyoda sensors in wheel apparently if the tool beeps it's talking to or attempting to talk to the wheel unit on a dead tons sensor out of car in hand produces no beep on tool or red lite..
Yes, the Autel AP200 scanner will tell you which one or more of the four TPMS sensors are not working correctly. What it will not show you is the location on the four corners of the car it is located at. To find the location of the nonfunctioning sensor(s), you need to let air out of each tire, one at a time, and use the scanner to see which one has decreased. FYI. The car only looks for 4 TPMS sensors. The OEM spare tire did not have a sensor in it.
Your TPMS batteries are starting to fail in your sensors. They all need to be replaced at this age. Where in SoCal are you located? I'm in Monterey Park. I have a set of OEM sensors with new OEM batteries if your interested? I can replace and reprogram them too.
The car is designed so that if the TPMS light just "turns on", that indicates the system detects low tire pressure. (Some cars - not the Gen 2 Prius - can display the tire pressure readings). Very few cars use a sensor for a (full size) spare tire. I have never seen a sensor for a compact spare. If the light flashes then stays on, that indicates a fault with the TPMS system. 99% of the time it's a failed sensor. The sensor battery lasts around 10 years, depending on use and climate. Since a Gen 2 Prius is now 15-20 years old, I would just replace all 4 sensors. If the tire shop uses "universal" sensors, then these must be correctly programmed for the year, make and model of car. Also, every sensor has a unique ID code. Either they can "clone" the ID from the old sensors, or they can create new IDs. New IDs must be entered into the car's TPMS ecu. Properly cloned sensors should just work if the old sensors were working before. The TPMS button under the dash does NOT do any of that . It only allows you to "set" a custom pressure value for the system - whatever the tires are at becomes the new "normal" (as long as it is above a minimum pressure). The Autel AP200 can read all data from the TPMS system. As Brian stated, you would have to make a "big" change in a tire's pressure and watch which one changes on the scanner. The Autel "should" be able to enter new ID numbers into the system, but that function didn't work the last time I tried it. Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.
Same here trying to do my o7 silver car brand new Toyoda boxes sensors . It's an Autel issue I can promise that . I've done it with this exact tool in hand
about as long as they last is 12-13 years ...some go sooner. If you live in a state that requires working TPMS at inspection then you need to replace. Gen2 had no way to turn off system, so black tape over the display was the only "fix". I made a fake reading with a binder clip on a spare OEM TPMS to live with 3 working for a few years. We used to use Toyota Techstream software to read/set the codes, now I use an Autel reader. I suppose I have another 5 years on my RAV4HV then I have to figure out
If a tire just has a valve a tire shop will always replace it when a new set of tires go on. I have seen shops that just cut off the old ones rather than pulling out the valve core. These days they also ask if you want to replace the TPMS sensors at the same time, since only really old cars just have valves. Did they not ask this? I guess a person might choose to leave the existing TPMS sensors on if they drive 20 or 30k miles a year and the car, or at least the sensors, are relatively new.
They removed it with the stem tool. I saw them do it. They did not ask if I wanted new TPMS sensors but I do recall on another car I went in with, I asked about TPMS sensors and they said they had them if I needed replacements. i believe they were $45 each. The tire shop inflated the tires to 44 psi and im not sure why but I release air til 38psi all around now. I ended up erasing the TPMS code with the scan tool and now its been off for a few hours. So let's hope it stays off.
So, I ran a live data set on the prius today while driving and noticed id1 (#3-#6) and id5 (#19-#22) are not providing any feedback like the other 2 id’s (i assume “id" indicates TPMS sensor). I found this info from another post on here: ID1 Front Passenger Side ID2 Front Driver Side ID3 Rear Passenger Side ID4 Rear Driver Side BUT then read this from @ChapmanF “ The ID slots will correspond to different positions after the rotation. Each sensor permanently has its own sensor ID number. The sensor is mounted in the wheel and goes wherever the wheel goes. In the tire pressure ECU, there's a level of indirection: the ECU can remember up to five sensor IDs (in case you add a sensor for the spare, not there from the factory), in slots named ID1 through ID5. In each of those slots you'll see the actual several-character ID of the sensor that was registered in that slot. There's no special meaning to the five slots, they just have the sensor IDs that have been registered with the ECU, in whatever order they were registered. So if slot ID1 has sensor id 1234abcd in it, and that's your right front at the moment, and you then do a front-to-back rotation, slot ID1 will still have sensor id 1234abcd and it will be the right rear wheel.” Soooo, it does give me some insight somewhat now about why I see 5 ID’s on the live data but even with the info above now, I would not be able to use it or go by it as wheels may have been switched around while tire replacement happen. I do recall though, prior to tire replacement, the TPMS fault always showed up on ID1 like now so perhaps the wheels were put back in the same location when the tires were swapped. So now I have to figure out which is ID1 and ID5, I highly doubt the spare donut has a TPMS sensor as I read they do NOT come from factory and it was never used until now. Here is the TPMS live data screenshot:
You only need to find the location of ID1 (non-working) sensor on the car. There is no ID5 sensor since a sensor is not mounted in the donut spare tire. FYI, you do not need to be driving the car to look at the TPMS live data on the scanner. The car can be stationary, but it needs to be turned on. To locate ID1 sensor, all you need to do is choose one tire and lower the tire pressure by 10 psi or so. Then, look at the live data on the scanner. Did one of the three working sensors show a decrease on the screen? If so, you now know where that sensor is located on the car. If none of the three working sensors show a decrease in pressure, then you know that you have found the non-working sensor. You may need to check all four tires until you find the non-working sensor ID1.
As you're able to view live data, you can just go let a few psi of pressure out of each tire, one by one, and watch for which live data readings change. Then you'll know which IDs go with which corners of the car right now (up until the next time you rotate tires). Of the two that don't report, of course that won't tell you which is which, but you will find out which two they are.