"Hundred year <weather>"

... many of those periods outside of, if I'm not mistaken, not only the couple million year history of animals much like humans, but even outside the longer history of complex organisms much like any close ancestors of humans. And of many organisms humans are biologically adapted to eat. And so on.

Not like we absolutely won't be able to adapt (I hope we can, as it's not like there's much choice). Just that the known history of the earth doesn't offer much in the way of comforting precedents for us to point to.

In other words, there have been some past examples of us recognizing an instance of crummy stewardship and having the sense to knock it off.

Those could be regarded as comforting precedents, especially if we can manage once again to show that kind of sense.

 

Don't delude yourself; we've done a lot of good work in the last 50 years or so.

 

You can focus on the mistakes, not the successes, but deluding yourself is not helpful to the cause.

 

Certainly, the last 50 years or so have seen humanity learn quite a lot about stewardship, and apply that knowledge, in a number of areas, to improve our overall stewardship record.

"The last 50 years or so" does also, roughly, coincide with a mighty heavy lobbying effort by a particular influential industry to make sure that we don't also apply what we've learned to correct another ongoing problem in our stewardship. That delay has, regrettably, put us in a bit of a situation.

 

we've been phasing out R134a, although that could change i suppose

 

Simply rectifying the bad the human race has done, does not show good stewardship, it just says we can at least see when we really stuff up....... if the human species had never evolved into the users and wreckers they are, absolutely none of that reclamation work would have been required. If we had learnt burning coal and other fossil fuels was bad for the planet, and rather used our knowledge to make synthetic fuels, or never developed the internal combustion engine at all, and stayed with steam and electrical powered propulsion and engines to power factories, we wouldn't be in the mess we are now ....

The ecological cycle tends to wipe out the inferior version and replace it with one that has learnt to adapt and work better within the basic frame work to keep everything balanced.
For instance, if all the animals can only eat vegetation up to 1 mtr off the ground, that food source dries up quickly and all the species start to compete for the same food ..... then one mutation in a group grows a longer neck .... they now have access to a whole untouched food source ..... that mutation will survive where the others of the same breed starve ... Darwin's Theory of Evolution. Why has the human race taken so long to evolve? We still destroy the only place we have to live ....

The human race might end up going through the same flushing of the gene pool, the greedy money hungry group that cares little for the planet's future, and only for what they can get right now, may eventually die out, much like the wealthy Pharaohs, Roman Emperors, Mayen empire ..... the list goes on ...... the egotistical elites may become a dying breed, replaced by those that can think ahead and protect the planet we live on ...... if the human race discovers how to live for 200yrs instead of reaching 60 yrs old being a major achievement around the time of the industrial revolution, destroying the very planet we live on for short term gain will be a poor choice and we would take better care of the only place we have to live ...... at the moment, we don't have a plan B, and plan A certainly isn't really the smartest plan ......

T1 Terry

 

i see it the other way round. the greedy will inherit the earth after they have killed all the poor.
of course, their income source will be gone, but there always seems to be a fresh supply

 

I see it as the poor will those who are force out of the housing because they no longer earn enough to both eat and pay rent or a mortgage.

They will probably start out living in trailers or motorhomes and find places to park up and maybe even scratch out enough to eat and keep their housing in a reasonable condition ...... if the rich are smart, they will supply these people with safe place to camp out in exchange for them becoming employees, but they will have to pay a decent wage, because they won't be the only ones who need semi skilled workers, so worker poaching will be a big time thing ..... it's like that here with the mining companies and the local towns competing for the same skill sets.

The rest of the population, after they have been on the street for a few mths, probably unemployable, so that will be the end of basic manual labour hire ...... Let's face it, if no one keeps the sewer and water and rubbish systems going ..... what will all that money buy you, even if it is tax free, you will still be up to your armpits in filth ......

T1 Terry

 

Actually, that’s very close to what has happened in the us since its inception.
But only through legislation.
The rich were content to starve the rest of us, since immigrants kept flooding the country to replace the dead

 

Now the cheap labour that mattered even less to the average US citizen, has been deported, now the faeces will really hit the rotary oscillator ..... if manufacturing does ever return and major dept chains start to reopen their shuttered stores.

If we didn't have the back packers doing a tour through Australia, working the harvest season or packing shelves and those type of jobs, Australia would struggle, the Uni students fill the vacancies in the takeaway sector and table service type jobs .... although, that is becoming a bit specialised these days with so many places going either up market full table service, or go to the counter and place your order, then collect it when your number is called, the kitchen staff picks up the casual table service staff in those type of establishments. We have a lot of service "clubs" in Australia. football, returned services, lawn bowls and community clubs, they have a half and half system, you go to the counter, order and pay and take a table number on a stand with you, your meal is delivered by the casual kitchen staff .... that system seems to work well and keeps the price down yet the meals a sensible size and quality ......

T1 Terry