2005 - Dying Accessory Battery... wait a minute... huh?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by pumpanddump, Sep 21, 2025 at 2:50 PM.

  1. pumpanddump

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    Ran diagnostic screen from the dash with car off.. got into setting and see the Accessory battery is at 10v.

    Why was I checking - because Red Triangle of death and multiple DTC some are bullsh*t but here they are: All of these have a "X" checkmark in the current column of techstream Images attached below:
    P3000, C1259, C1310, C2318,

    However -Stayed in the diagnostic screen, gave the Prius a full start - and it went back to 14v.
    Now I understand how the main battery would recharge this.. so yea, I get how that works. Somewhat of a good sign. Maybe.

    So is it dead / dying Accessory battery? Can I get it reconditioned or am I looking at buying a new battery to resolve all issues present, it might be under warranty since it says free replacement .
    I purchased this accessory battery in 2023!

    Right now its completely disconnected, put the multimeter set to 20v, and it's reading 11.51v
    Is that enough of weakness to make the system throw a Red Triangle of death?

    The only DTC on the hybrid battery was "section 4 is weak". ABS Regenerative issues: C1259 / C1310

    Thanks in advance!
     

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    You have to first address the low charge on the 12v battery before you can diagnose any other problem. So if you have a battery charger that charges at low amperage, you can charge the 12v to full and then see if it'll hold a charge. At the current state of under 12v, it's basically a dead battery
     
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    Wow... the battery only lasted 2 years!?! thats insane. I'll bring it up to the shop and see if this battery can hold a charge.
     
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    you could have allow it to drain by not driving long distances, short distance driving (like a mile or 2 a day) will not charge the battery properly
     
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    could be under warranty, get a free load test at most auto parts stores
     
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    You have some misunderstandings as to how the 12v system works in the Gen 2.

    First, your 12v battery is very weak right now, whether that is from a failing battery or from not enough use is yet to be determined. What are your normal use habits for the car? Even a brand new battery will drain almost completely in about 6-7 weeks of low/non-use due to normal shutdown current draw of the cars systems. This can be extended by deactivating the SKS system using the button under the steering wheel labeled "KEY".

    Second, when you see the 14 volts, that is not the 12v battery, that is the DC-DC converter powering up and taking over the 12v power system. This happens when the car goes to READY mode, where the HV battery is placed on-line and HV power is sent to the inverter systems. Similar to how alternator in an ICE car comes to life when the engine starts running.

    The pending P3014 means "Block 4 becomes weak", which means block 4 (of 14) (or module 7 and 8 of 28) in the HV battery at one point in the recent past exceeded the threshold for the code. If it happens again within a certain timeframe, it will RTOD and go to a limp mode style operation. Usually, this "pending code" is an early clue of upcoming HV battery failure.
     
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    Got the battery tested underload and they said its bad. It wasn't the place i bought it from...going there on monday since its under 3 year warranty.

    Yes,she doesn't drive the car long distances. Its a grocery getter / hair appointment assistant.

    Unfortunately the main computer in the dash is becoming unreadable, except at night, even then its toast looking...meaning..i cant really observe the regeneration of energy on screen.

    The codes will reset,I will check techstream again, within 48 hours. After the new accessory battery is installed.

    Maybe i neec to get a trickle charger for this accessory battery? Is this an option, any brand suggestion, models? Cost?
    Thanks.
     
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    1. If you lasted 2 years without doing anything to the battery, then you probably don't really need a trickle charger. You just need a battery charger that can top off the battery once or twice a year. Hook it up at night, by morning, it'll be fully charged. Do it Jan and June of every year and you shouldn't have any issues. I use a very high quality one from CTEK. It's a trickle charger and battery charger all in one. And it has the important AGM charging function, for all the Prius batteries (and other cars) that are AGM

    CTEK - 40-206 MXS 5.0 Fully Automatic 4.3 amp Battery Charger and Maintainer 12V


    When you get your new replacement battery, try to charge it fully before installing. Then it'll be fully charged from day 1
     
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    When you say 'main computer', you're talking about the display in the center of the dash/center console above the radio, right? It sounds like you're describing the screen being burned out. Kind of like a circular or oval discolored area in the middle of the screen? Those are actually fairly easy to replace if desired, but it's important to get the part number from the back of it, so it can be replaced by the same.
     
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    Yes, but unless i can get the screen for under $40. Im not going to bother. All the ac and heat settings are set and memorized... The radio is never ever used by my girl.
     
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    That thing you want to buy for under $40, has a retail price of over $4000 from Toyota.

    You can get it repaired for about $300, or if a junkyard has one, it'll be around $150 - $200
     
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    Nope. Every minute the battery spends below full charge increases the sulfation (slowly) and the farther the battery is below fully charged the faster it will sulfate. Overcharging it will screw up the battery via other mechanisms eventually, including corrosion. So for longest battery life having a good battery maintainer (carefully sticking to float voltage once charged) on the car pretty much all the time it is off is the way to go. A deep discharge, and 10V is like 0% SOC, will damage an AGM battery permanently. The Prius battery is not a deep discharge battery, even going below 50% is a bad idea. This is one of the advantages of the deep discharge batteries discussed in the "Mobility Battery" thread, they are designed to be very deeply discharged without sustaining (as much) damage. Anyway, ignoring a Prius battery for three weeks or so (not driving it at all or too little) will damage the 12V. Full charges twice a year will not overcome that problem.

    SOC isn't the whole game though. Heat kills batteries too, the more heat, the shorter the lifetime. I imagine S.C. is pretty hot for a good part of the year, albeit not Phoenix or Death Valley hot. Driving in hot weather with the AC not on can really cook the auxiliary battery, especially if that side of the car is in direct sun.
     
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    So what is your solution?...if it was in this...i missed it.
     
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    Minor update: battery was under warranty, and received a new battery today. Will install shortly and run techstream tomorrow or later on after install.

    Yes, the heat is brutal down here especially in the summer with record heat. First day of Fall was yesterday. Yes, she doesn't drive the car as much - all road trips are done in our other vehicles.

    Its a 2005, we will get rid of it when it just doesn't pay to get fixed...like the regenerative brake booster i heard was super expensive, the suspension is still original... But its never really been abused, and our mechanic has never mentioned any dangers.

    A/c and heat work - only really other issue is bad paint and faded headlights ( rarely ever driven at night anyway).
     
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    When in doubt, step one is always to fix the most obvious problem first. First, your 12v battery is very weak right now. A 12v battery that isn't at least 12v is the most obvious problem in your list and can create additional ghost problems. Whether that battery was faulty or just needed charging, we'll never know. It sounds like you're getting that resolved currently with the new 12v battery, so that's great. When you swap the battery out, unless you use a maintainer to keep the 12v circuit alive, you'll clear all codes in the ecus and reset all learned parameters back to original default values. At that point, all you can do is drive it and see if any codes return. Hopefully not. If they do, at least you'll know they're legitimate codes.

    As for the other information in the post, it's important to understand how the 12v system works for accurate troubleshooting. I was just trying to clear up any misunderstandings.
     
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    The new battery received was 13.5v on it...installed, buttoned up ..fired it up and greeted by check engine light...but no red triangle. Heard brake booster, heard engine turn on, a/c running.... Hybrid fan in back...blowing. :/

    Drove it around the backyard a few circles .. turned car off and on multiple times . Check engine light persistence. Checked all fluids - all are great, hybrid fluid churning too. About to put techstream on it. Taking a vreak for some food.
     
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    A good idea. Last thing you want is to have to deal with a hungry vreak.
     
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    Surprised no one suggested a parasitic draw test... excessive draw when shutdown can kill a two year battery and can do the same again.

    Often people who have the test run or are proficient enough with a amp meter in the milliamp scale find an aftermarket accessory like a gps or amp or an obd2 reader stuck in by the owner or an insurance company was the root cause.
     
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    None of this applys, but thanksfor the suggestions to check.

    Currently running tech stream again - check engine light came back. Going to look for blown fuses in the morning...waiting for techstream to finish up.
     
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    If I had to guess on your check engine light, it would be a bad catalytic converter or a bad 3 way coolant valve. But techstream should cough up a code