Compare 2012 - 2015 PiPs?

Discussion in 'Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015' started by Carmen TheWonderDog, Oct 1, 2025 at 1:16 PM.

  1. Carmen TheWonderDog

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    Well, it finally happened, my rusty 2008 130kmi ish(?) Prius has hit a real road bump, not just the two natural disasters & being ‘totaled’ twice, but the HV battery throwing codes & tagged as responsible for the inoperability of the car.

    So, since I’m far from anything, my latest theory is to do Everything; thus having a back up/work car. Buy the $1k online reconditioned battery (vs $2k new, vs remove original battery, drive 2.5h to a tech to diagnose & repair) & DIY w/ postage paid core return. AND find a low mileage PiP that hasn’t put up w/ the painfully hot steamy summers & freezing winters this poor Gen2 traction battery has endured until recently.

    But which year? First model year notoriously has kinks that later get worked out; was this the case vs 2013-2015? I drive little (no favor to my Gen2 battery, a few mi/wk, filling tank 1/mo or 2mo), so the PiP would be almost entirely electric for me & added incentive for roof solar.

    Unless my thinking is flawed, I’m considering a low mileage PiP that’s been pampered in a mild climate its whole life (for battery & body) & dreaming of spending closer to $11k than $14k. Now is clearly the time, but since I live in the middle of the country (where it’s easier to find an e-85 truck), 2.5-3 hr from anywhere, it’s looking like (per AutoTrader) more & better options are available further away than easy driving distance, so… this looks to be considerably beyond my existing experience of 2 used cars from private owners inspected & purchased in person (my only 2 cars so far). Looks like that would tack on ~$1k in car transport if purchased sight unseen. And my little pea brain is thinking, go online to look up well-rated hybrid mechanics in the area & find someone willing/able to do the pre-purchase inspection & provide me a report?

    Ideas? Comments? Opinions? Advice? Look elsewhere? Anything? Bueller….
     
  2. PriusCamper

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    #2 PriusCamper, Oct 1, 2025 at 7:53 PM
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  3. Carmen TheWonderDog

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    Thanks!

    10-12 mi will usually suffice for me, but when the battery fails, yes, I’d definitely look for an upgrade (& hopefully by then, prices will have dropped, as the tech won’t be quite so new)
     
  4. bisco

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    they replaced the pistons and rings in the late '14's and '15's. supposed to help with the clogging egr and blown head gasket, but idk.
     
  5. Mendel Leisk

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    The piston ring revision was the only “kink work out”, happened at a certain VIN in model year 2014. EGR still clogs with carbon, and without periodic cleaning leads to head gasket failure around 150k miles on average. Inverters have a moderate failure rate, brake boosters similar. Electric water pumps (one for engine, another for inverter) have also proven failure prone, around 150k.
     
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    do we know if 2015 egr's are clogging?
     
  7. Mendel Leisk

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    Scientific method, you’d need a survey. EGR carbon build-up could be accelerated by oil-burning, seems plausible. Still, our ‘10’s dipstick level has yet to budge between oil changes, but it was accumulating carbon. I cleaned it first around 45k miles, debatably “early”. Judging from cooler and intake manifold condition, by 150k miles it would have been about the usual mess.
     
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    Apropos of nothing, but VW TDI diesels in the 2000 timeframe like I had experienced EGR issues.
    Imagine recirculating diesel exaust...ugh.
    I recall 'EGR delete' pipes sold.
    Of course they would throw a code.
    Don't recall any cooler though; that would've been a real mess.