2006 142k mileage check in and advice needed

Change brake fluid?

Check the mechanical water pump belt. Not sure how it is in Iowa, but if that was the original belt in S. California it would likely have a bunch of small cracks from the heat.

Inspect the hoses in the engine bay.

Check the spare, the pressure is likely low. Unclear to me if donuts ever go bad, they don't see any sunlight and are protected to some extent from ozone, but they do get baked when the car is parked in the sun. That said, the bottom of the trunk area with a metal interface to the shade under the car should be significantly cooler than the cabin of the car under the same conditions. Probably for similar reasons I have measured the 12V battery at about 10F cooler than the cabin.

Check every bulb on the car. (Possibly avoiding a ticket for having the rear license plate not lit?)

Easiest to do on a lift, but the components on the bottom of the car should be inspected from time to time. Failing that, at least bounce each corner to verify that the shocks are still functioning and there are no unexpected sounds when the suspension components are moving.

 

That is the debate.

I had mine done recently, but it was a bit of a special case. There is a problem on my car with the front driver's side wheel running slightly warm, and when I had the "this is the guy you go to when nobody else can figure it out" mechanic trying to diagnose that problem I had him change the fluid at the same time, since he was going to relube the brake pins to see if that resolved it. He had the right tools to fix the problem if the brake actuator detected an issue from the fluid change and had a hissy fit, and I didn't. As it turned out he couldn't find the source of the heat either, and it remains to be seen if the fluid change will cause the actuator to fail prematurely. (One possible explanation is that the actuator is already failing and is causing that brake to drag ever so slightly, although not even enough to cause uneven wear between the pads on the two sides. The more likely one is that the bearing that was replaced there wasn't very good.)

 

What is special about a brake fluid change?

 

It's a throwback from a time when a vehicle needed all its fluids changed regularly. We don't live in those times anymore. Also some people on here a convinced that the $2K part that runs the brake system is more likely to fail and will need to be replaced after a brake fluid change. For this reason I have 300K miles on original brake fluid and still haven't had any issues.

 

You're barely even broke in after 20 something years this car should last you for life.

 

Even so, brake fluid should be changed every two to three years. You can buy a brake fluid testing kit and change it as required, if that's more your bent. Brake fluid is hygroscopic, and once it has absorbed enough moisture, it is not kind to the internals of the brake system.

Regular changing of brake fluid will be beneficial for the brake actuator, even if it has been a while. I wouldn't let an old wives' tale hold you back.

 

There are two issues with changing the brake fluid on this vehicle:

1. Unlike all the other cars I have owned the Prius is touchy about its brakes, and if things go a little sideways the actuator will throw codes and special software (and hardware) is needed to dig out of that hole. Techstream will work but not with the miniVCI cable most of us have. Apparently the Autel AP200 will work reliably for this.

2. There are reports and rumors that changing the brake fluid can cause the actuator to fail a "short" time later. Toyota might have enough statistics to say for sure one way or the other, but I'm pretty sure nobody outside the company does. I certainly have no way of determining the truth here. There is a fair chance that this danger is complete BS, based on a few cars where the actuator failed in that time frame, because brake actuators do fail on this car on a time frame (long) that is similar to the "I really have been putting off changing the brake fluid too long" time frame.

 

I suspect that most reported failures that drive the rumour-mill are caused by DIY incompetence.

Yes, you certainly need the right tools and process knowledge to do this right, but that's what you pay a professional to do if you don't have the prerequisites to do it yourself.

The last time I did it, I paid my local Toyota dealer NZ$165 (so, ~US$95). Well worth it to me. That was over two years ago, and no issues at all.

 

95 for a fluid change not actuator change . Still 95 for fluid change isn't bad

 

I wouldn't think there should be any problems arising they have a modernpresdure bleeder systems and tech software to operate the valves so uhh. Generally pretty uneventful

 

lol, they just use turkey baster to get the fluid out, top it off and charge you $150. I have older vehicles like my Prius with more than 150k miles that never have any brake fluid flushed. My 07 Camry Hybrid however got that dreaded break actuator failure and guess what, I have it serviced at a Toyota dealership for the brake recall at 100k miles (they replaced the master brake reservoir) and after 150k miles my brake actuator died.. just make sure you don't have incompetent techs at your dealership or shop.. I mostly do my own stuff now...

 

Rather a bold claim. You know for certain that this fraudulent behavior goes on across the whole globe?

Sure, there are some bad actors – there are in all systems because, you know, humans, but to tar every mechanic with the same brush, come on!

 

As far as I can tell most shops now have a device that keeps the master cylinder filled while the bleed screws are opened. Some of them move the fluid by pressurizing the master cylinder (best approach) and some put a small vacuum on the bleeder screw (less good, easy to introduce air around the screw threads). Either way it becomes a one person job, the "buddy in the car repeatedly stepping on the brake" is eliminated.

http://www.instructables.com/How-to-Flush-Brake-Fluid-Using-a-Pressure-Bleeder/

No doubt there are some scam artists around who would fake the procedure. It shouldn't happen in a reputable shop. They have the tools so that a single mechanic can do the job quickly and well, and might as well use them.

 

Real.9ld tools by the way pressure bleeders etc are given away on marketplace pretty regularly now days .

 

not to tarnish everyone but it's seems to be the norm nowadays, everybody has to make easy living.. I got friends who got ridiculous estimates and bad diagnosis from shops (and they're legit shops/dealers) Stealerships is what they are called.

 

LOLLLLL . . . so you're like me then and never change brake fluid.