Featured Toyota can’t keep up with demand

Toyota and Honda are running very light on deliveries of specific vehicles.

“Everyone” is reacting to the “who” is least bad right now considering all the electric, engine and transmission issues new vehicles seem to have right now.

vehicle quality feels like 1976 for many

 

Good lord, how many shares have you got?

 

Was going to say that the OP sounded like A toyo commercial, but you said it much better

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pretty happy with my bolt, considering i laid off gm fo 40 years. at least as nice as any of our 9 toyotas

 

I no longer own TSLA stock:

The EV tax credits ended September 30, 2025. Speculation is some Q4 purchases were brought into Q3 to take advantage of the expiring tax credits. This might reduce the Q4 purchase numbers along with anti-Tesla and anti-Musk claims.

Bob Wilson

 

Wonder how many people bought an ICE model cause the hybrid wasn't available.
Toyota Hybrid Shoppers Facing Long Waits - Kelley Blue Book

 

How many people?

 

I think Toyota is a great brand to buy brand new. But used, not so much.

The current problem with the used car market is that it seems like a Toyota depreciates about 1% every year until it's basically junk, then drops to scrape iron prices. Ok, maybe that's a bit of an exaggeration, but if I'm looking for a $5,000 car, Toyota doesn't seem like the best option.

 

that may be true, but do you get what you pay for?

 

This is what makes me wonder if I should start looking at buying new instead of used.

If a used car ends up costing more than a new car, or even about the same, then what's the point?

Then again, I don't feel like I could afford either option without getting a third job.

For an example, I just plugged in numbers for a brand new, 2025 Corolla hybrid LE and a used 2019 Corolla L sedan into Edmunds True Cost to Own® calculator. According to the calculator: the new car costs $32,167 to own for 5 years, whereas the used car costs $32,868 to own for the same 5 years.

At those prices, what's the point in buying used?

When younger I bought a $250 1993 Mazda 323, got 40 mpg, and drove it for 7 years.
Then I bought a $600 1985 VW Golf diesel, got 40 mpg, and drove it for another 7 years.

Where are those kinds of deals anymore?

 

that's true of the whole economy. the trick is to find a vehicle that is out of favor and piling up on lots, if there are any.
it won't likely be a toyota, but maybe stellantis or mazda or mitsubishi?

 

50 year mortgages are being recommended, maybe we need 10 year car loans

 

I believe those not only exist but are also extremely popular, from what I've heard at least. I have a friend that had a 10 year car loan. It didn't turn out very well for him.

I almost snatched a $2,000 Mazda 3, newer and with fewer miles than my Avalon.

I'd be over 100 years old by the time I paid it off if I got a house today.
The boys have no intentions of staying here where the wife and I live. Would they even want to assume such a loan? The equity gained would be near nothing in the first several years. Maybe if interest were about 1%, as if that will ever happen.

I'm not sure. I believe Ford Escapes are abundant. But then again, I've now known 6 that have needed an up to $9,000 transmission repair between 60,000 and 100,000 miles, all paid for by the owner.

 

Current new car inventory at Open Road Toyota, Port Moody:

 

I ran the same numbers when I bought my Camry a couple weeks ago. You can get deals on new cars that you can't get on used cars because of manufacturer incentives, so new and newer used cars cost the same amount. And from a long term perspective, I found it's either the same average price per month (all expenses included) or actually a bit less expensive to buy a new car and keep it until it's 20 years old than to buy a used car and to keep it until it's the same age. And with a new car, you get advantages of warranty and knowing how it's been driven from the beginning.

 

How weird is that - The plug in Priuses seem to be moving the least.
So much for the notion,
"can't keep up with the demand"