Why must Toyota curse us with 5x100?

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    Do you know how hard it is to find used tires + wheel combo on marketplace when they are all 5x4.5. Not to mention the only few 5x100 i manage to find are either oversized suburu that rubs my wheelwell or more than half, dont extend far enough to not scrape the brake caliper. Q_Q

    All other toyota models have made the switch a decade ago. It took till gen 5 to finally decide maybe prius can benefit from a larger selection of tires. Just curious, but is it possible to swap a 5th gen wheel barring to a 3rd or 4th gen? Not that i would attempt it, but hypothetically. Asking for a friend.
     
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    Really? :)
     
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    Toyota has always tried to make as much as possible exclusive to their company. It's the same kind of stupidity as thinking placing massive tariffs on every country in the world is good for business. It's not, it's never been. Its best to compete at the same level as everyone else rather than exclusifying everything to death.
     
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    apple went one way, and microsoft the other
     
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    I didn't have any problems finding non-OEM tires and rims for my gen4. No issues replacing the rubber on my old Prius C either with non-OEM specified rubber.
     
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    And Linux became the foundation that all servers and all phones are built on because its open source and NOT proprietary. This is the difference between capitalism and socialism!

    If you want to protect yourself from being easily prayed upon as a consumer you need to install a Linux-based OS on your computer like Ubuntu.
     
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    i thought the complaint was that no one was making gen 5 tyres
     
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    OP specifically mentioned 5x100 lug pattern, so gen4 or prior tires and wheels.
     
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    ALL Servers?!
    ALL Phones?!

    um.....
    nope.

    I'm a pretty big fan of Linux, and I used to be a droid driver until their bloatware and planned obsolescence schemes forced me to start seeing other phones.

    Correct.
    Capitalism brought us to a place where we're no longer using rented, corded 'Princess Phones' and paying for long distance telephony.
     
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    We always got more complaints @bisco! It keeps up young and surly!
     
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    For all practical purposes Unix / Linux run the world both fell off the same tree given to us by an offshoot of Ma Bells capitalist monopoly.

    our totally capitalist system then decided to sue the crap out of Ma and a few dependents getting rid of corded princess phones allowing you to choose your long distance.

    with inflation my basic corded phone service and $4.99/month dialup is still significantly cheaper than non-penalty box cell and internet.

    my landline phone with internet was grandfathered at $24.99/month combined through 2016, with inflation still immensely cheaper than anything not extremely punitive and frustrating to use today

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    as to the ops complaint, I agree that we may need our totally capitalist government to force certain specific components to be once again industry standard.

    we did it with 12v batteries (as hard as it is to believe), headlights (for a while), tires to a point and bumpers for a while.

    considering some cars have $2000 headlight enclosures and $5000 plastic insta break front ends made from plastic bags we might need .gov to force 5 mph crash bumpers, standardized headlights and possibly some other mandatory kumbiyah standards across manufacturers.
     
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    I remember the now defunct Bada OS from Samsung - yet another Linux fork - who at the time have unsuccessfully tried to ditch their Android dependence. It all about the $$$
     
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    Ding-Ding!
    Linux worshipers always leave that part out.
    The fact that Linus basically er...'Xeroxed' Unix and MINIX and then gifted it to the world combined with the fact that AT&T was recently (and rightfully, IMHO) broken apart is one of those wonderful historical coincidences.
    Props to the geeks out there that know why I chose the Xerox verb...... ;)

    Anyone who is interested in the nuances of these topics might remember a long-ago time when PSB (like AT&T) was....different.
    They produced an 8-part documentary called:
    Hell's Bells, a Radio History of The Telephone.
    Widely available and is a wonderful story of the collisions (plural!) of emerging tech, corporate greed, and government regulation - with a generous dollop of humor.
    Part 1.
    I dare you to listen and not be interested in the other 7 parts!


    The absolute very BEST form of government is a benevolent monarchy.
    Since this is about as possible as efficient Communism/Socialism we are stuck with Capitalism, moderated by a suspicious federal government as the "sucks less" alternative.

    ....get rid of the 'Kumbaya' and this may be possible.
    Automobiles have gossamer thin, ground hugging aero-shells that cannot withstand striking a well-fed squirrel without a tow-truck intervention BECAUSE of the climate industrial complex.
    Same reason for the sculpted, form-fitting headlamps.

    THAT's why I drive a truck.
    Well....that and I dislike the idea of being pried out on one of those death traps before the dust-off mission to the nearest hospital.
     
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  14. Tideland Prius

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    5x100 is pretty common among compacts when the Gen 2-4 were around.
     
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    Concur.....weren't they also used in Corollas since the early 2000s?

    NOT exactly a niche pattern.
     
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    It id called trademark abuse. You cannot legally use a trademark as a verb or noun.
     
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    Yup. Well all the Corolla 15” wheel options were 5x100 weren’t they? I got my used winter steelies off a Cavalier lol.
     
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