Solution to 12V issues? Disconnect 12v negative terminal sensor plug

Discussion in 'Gen 5 Prius Main Forum' started by Halcykon, Dec 1, 2025 at 11:28 AM.

  1. Brian1954

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    Did you make a typo for the year? Did you mean 2026?
     
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    Yes I did. Thanks for picking it up. I was able to change it.
     
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    Can you link the video? I'm not familiar with triple tapping or what the rationale is behind putting the car in ready.
     
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    Yes, that can be done (idling in READY for an hour). You would have to do that every week. A battery maintainer is the way to go though, but you need a garage.
     
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    Good to know that there are more datapoints for this! How did you come to the conclusion for that with your F150?
     
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    What is that knob called? I'm currently thinking of some aftermarket solutions for disconnecting the 12V when I can't use a trickle charger.

    This knob, or some sort of quick release mechanism, would be great.
     
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    vehicle battery isolator quick disconnect, amazon et al:
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    Ok; I just did a quick test. This is by no means a real test, don't have a BM2 to do a long term test.

    1. my battery was 11.8VDC, so I placed a 6A battery charger on it for two hours and disconnected the sensor
    2. battery check was 12.8VDC now, so placed the car into Ready mode; meter shot up to 14.2VDC - No CEL, 5 minute test.
    3 . Shut-down and reconnected the sensor, battery @ 12.4VDC - Got the car back into Ready mode - 14.1VDC for another 5 minutes.

    I'll need to get a BM2 to chart the charging voltage as the car is running, but disconnecting that sensor doesn't trip the CEL. Since there wasn't a significant change in the DC-DC converter over either 5 minute test interval - I can't really say if it's working or not; just that it doesn't trip the CEL on a gen4.
     
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    It could also be possible to check the voltage while running with OBD Fusion or Car Scanner over CarPlay (Gen5). Possibly charting as well.
    edit: This video might not be definitive. Perhaps I want to log on a timed interval.
     
    #29 VelvetFoot, Dec 2, 2025 at 9:14 PM
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    Never dropped below 14v for me after disconnecting. Stayed between 14-14.1v.

    No CEL.

    I'm thinking I'm gonna leave it disconnected as my OEM battery shat the bed after a year (11.6v resting voltage on a 20F day after no driving for 2 days; car still started fine and no errors but I didn't like that and swapped to an AGM). Maybe it was a bad battery, maybe it was the BMS shenanigans, don't know don't care. Going with the safe route: BMS disconnect + AGM.
     
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    Wondering if effect on mpg will be seen?
     
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    I estimate it to be about 0.5 mpg in the ballpark. The extra power consumption in watts is (14.1 V−12.89 V) times the current in amperes drawn by the 12-V system.
     
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    I wonder if the constant 14.1 volts to the battery could potentially be worse for a sealed AGM battery or the vented flooded type?

    Electrically, I'm no whiz, but if the battery is getting charged with 14.1 volts, once it gets to 100% it's not accepting any more juice, ie, current, correct?

    With a lead acid battery, you want to keep it at 100% as much as possible, no?
     
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    Its own voltage at 100% charge is less than that, so your 14.1 will still be forcing current backwards through it, just without any further increase in charge. You're just making heat and bubbles at that point.