Milk $6

Once PayPal stops paying anything o/seas in USD, the game will be up, no one can still trust the USD will remain at a fixed value, it isn't fixed to anything, so it can move at any moment.

I believe that was the idea behind moving everything back to the US, so when the USD is devalued to reduce the huge govt debt, it wouldn't hit the US economy so hard because less would be imported ..... the fact that just about everything made in the USA is from local and imported goods wasn't factored into this great plan .......

The debt is still climbing at an alarming rate, there are even less people employed in the US that doesn't directly or indirectly cost the govt tax $$ that is reducing by the day ...... it can only end one way, it is just being pushed further down the road, but at an ever reducing pace ...... simply shutting the govt down so no real wages, unemployment and the state of the economy results will be available until the New Yr, the only desperate hope he has is the Thank Giving and Christmas retail spend and short term employment will make the numbers look better ...... You are the people living there, what as the chances that will happen, can people actually afford to buy up big for Christmas?

Is that what the promised money gift is all about .... trying to boost retail trade? Will it really just vanish into catching up delinquent bills and maybe give people another mth before things really start to collapse around them?

When the Aust govt did a few rounds of $$ handouts, the sales of flat screen tv's skyrocketed ..... at least they could watch reruns while locked down as a result of covid .... maybe they looked better on a giant flat screen tv

What the lockdown did do, was make everyone reassess their work/life balance, resulting in under employment in the trades and a savage increase in price to get anything built/fixed ..... at least without the work pressure crushing the life out of people, they all seem to be happier ....

T1 Terry

 

IMHO; there really wasn't a REAL plan - Just some huckster with a pipe dream that had Donald's ear. The devil is in the details. We don't have the infrastructure or raw materials to simply drop a factory somewhere and have it start producing worldwide competitive products. We should be enhancing and shoring up our own competitive advantages and start planning LONG-TERM; NOT quarterly like most large corporations here. Stuff like this doesn't happen overnight; it takes time and planning to lay down the groundwork; if you want it to be successful.
Now they're attacking schools and hamstring research, that has keep us ahead of the pack. Again short-sightless and shooting ourselves in the foot to pursue 'junk-science'.

They don't really teach fiscal responsibility in grade school; it's an option to learn it in college. The 2008 housing crisis, with all the lair loans - no-one went to jail and the US gov't ended up "holding the bag". There were so many foreclosures and bankruptcies that banks started to lower their lending standards; just to get people back onto the thread-mill. Most of us 'ante that smart', or I'm just too honest to take advantage of the situation. I know plenty of people that have a high income that banks should've garnished their wages. The banks just let them walk away, so they could buy another house 18 months later - starting the cycle all over again. Fiscal responsibility is an excuse that both parties use, when they can't justify why they're not doing something to actually help their constituents. They rather send 40 billion to Argentina, than pay SNAP benefits to American families. Or shooting million dollar missiles at 'drug boats'; then pardoning a convicted drug trafficker (Juan Orlando, ex-Honduran president). What's the reason we're going into Venezuela again. They won't authorize another Trump Resort and Spa in their country like Vietnam?
I believe we are entering into "the lost decade" like Japan. A lot of baby boomers are exiting the work force, further straining government coffers. It doesn't help that the current administration is spending like a drunken sailor - no offense to actual drunken sailors, and thank you for your service.....

Sorry for the long rant - getting off the Soap-Box now......

 

Oh that's not a long rant

 

didn't biden start the new chip factory? The Biden administration's CHIPS Act took concrete steps to incentivize a build out of chip production —
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Also started to sink billions into coal country to help them transition and then the wretched-in-chief pulled out the rug from under them: Trump Administration Withdraws Billions in Clean Energy Funding Promised to Appalachian Coal Communities - EnviroLink Network

 

I could eat healthy every day for a month on the amount of calories it took to feed that cow to produce that two pounds of meat. As Gandhi once said, "the world has enough for everyone's need, but not enough for everyone's greed."

Let's all do right by this planet by eating lower on the food chain, which will do a whole heck of a lot more good for the world than just saving alot of money!

 

Have owned and driven Toyota Hybrids since 2010. I'm not giving up meat.

 

Might've noticed I liked PC's post... but also frodoz's.

Am firmly in the opinion, eating more whole plant food dishes, leads to longer life, more energy, less wear/tear on organs you don't have spares of (and defo those you might, like your kidneys)... atop being more sustainable, in a world where the 'Third World' is quickly rising to replace the BRICs -- Buick crossovers, iPhone 17s and insect-based protein powders for everyone, all 8 effing billion of us...

I reversed a diagnosed clinical depression and fully-remissed... on diet alone (had to -- my 'psychiatrist' was just a pill-pusher... and none of that worked, incredible how did that happen ). Cut out the drive-thru window and ate only kale / cruciferous salads and various salad beans, w/ EVOO & ACV as dressing, two meals a day from 2017 to 2020. No meat, only plant food for that long... and it worked. Dropped enough weight to start walking then running, thru covid -- and when pandemicks closed the salad bar, ate it from a bag and bought my own dressing. Ran 2 mi / day, 7d / wk, with a mask on (the whole purpose, was to strengthen lungs in case a vaccine wasn't developed before I eventually tested positive). On greens and beans, and supplement pills to fill in the nutritional holes. It can be done.

But for my genes (am stock of 5 gens of sugar cane and pineapple plantation workers), that plant-only diet wasn't going to work long-term. My ancestors, even in Japan prior to the sugar plantations, were all farmers but my mother's -- and you'd think 'ah, they probably ate what they grew'. True -- but not only, don't be thick. They ate chicken and fish and mutton plenty. So those are genetic preferences my body prefers -- esp after 40.

They probably ate mostly plants and root veg, depending on where in Japan we're talking about. But big surprise, no settlement's very far from either ocean or mountain bounties... so plant foods and dishes dominated Tokugawa-shogunate-era peasant diets, and defo before that. But lots of meat too -- just more balanced than a typical North American diet (tbh, if you look at any ancient bourgeoisie cuisine, it's full of plant foods because those are easy and cheap to raise vs. a goat or cow... spare & resourceful but also amazing flavour extracted from scraps of whatever the rich wouldn't be caught eating. At least until they tasted it, then stole and renamed it ).

I tell my clients, you have to be kind to your heritage -- not just the intellectual body but also the physical, biochemical body, evolved in conditions thousands of years and hundreds of generations. We all inter-marry now... but for millennia you had mates very similar to yourself, all surviving and marked by the same conditions in prehistory. Need to take that into consideration, when embarking on whatever vision quest you have -- becoming a marathoner, or losing weight using xyz method, or wondering why you can't digest gluten. It helps to know where you come from, and what they did to survive -- because that's what you have to contend with now, in whatever you do. Having access to genetic markers and risk factors with affordable tests, helps unlock the first doors.

Oh btw... processed red meat? Off the table for me, unless literally mincing a steak with a knife, or hand meat grinder. A nice high-quality grassfed steak? Risk isn't zero for colon cancer if grilled over gas or wood... but better than 30 different antibiotic / hormone-stuffed grain-fed cow bits all mooshed complete w/ pathogens under carbon monoxide (to boost red colour) & plastic wrap. Need to look at your chicken and how it's raised... and of course wild salmon are more expensive than farmed for many reasons. Albacore tuna has less methylmercury in it than bluefin (maguro, your gateway red sushi fish), yellowfin / bigeye (ahi), or esp other big predatory fish like swordfish and marlin... but more than skipjack (aku or katsuo)... so better for regular consumption. But not more than one meal, 2x a week -- methylmercury's some nasty stuff; no level of it's good, like lead

 

Milk $6

Fact check:
False.
I s'pose SOME people pay $6 but....

 

you must have missed page 1

 

Breakfast and lunch


dinner will be similar. Protein, cooked vegetables, grains, salad

 

Nope.
Asked...and answered.

 

I think most europeans are lactose tolerant. Those are the people that matter.
I drink unsweetened almond milk, because dairy cows have boys, and the boys are made into veal, which I find sad. I may not have it right but I think it is.

 

, It's DEI related.

You've made my day........

 

Specifically, northern Europeans.

And to a lesser extent, some dairy culture groups from Central Asia, the Middle East, and parts of Africa.

 

"... dairy cows have boys, and the boys are made into veal ..."

This is an interesting topic of which I have learned only a little. But it could belong in this discussion because milk comes from an industry that acts to optimize profits. No surprise there.

For the milk cows themselves, max production per unit feed cost is the key. This means that they are scheduled to produce only a few calves, at optimal spacing, and are more or less ‘spent’ after about 6 years. Calves and mothers are generally separated at early age.

Female calves are generally raised by human feeding. If they are to join the milk herd they stay ‘home’. Otherwise are moved elsewhere which might include becoming meat early.

Male calves have worse prospects. I do not find that they are more likely to become veal, as opposed to becoming meat at a later age. But it certainly could be true.

Whichever ones join the veal express, it is of particular concern to animal rights organizations. Besides being a shorter life, it features living conditions that dismay those interested in such things.

The milk industry overall does not offer long happily lives for all its ‘participants’ as a goal. Surely there are exceptions to that. It is possible that different farm practices contribute to the range of milk prices.

Let’s say it’s bad to be born a male from milk cows. Both from their perspectives, and because that pregnancy led to lower profit. A logical response would be to ‘sort sperm’ because sperm control offspring gender. I do not know status of that research.

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Overall, if one chooses to be a consumer for this industry, one tacitly accepts its practices (that being a generalizable statement). Your humble reporter does not judge.

 

The other cattle (Bos taurus or other Bos spp.) industry is meat production. Here are some contrasts. Life expectancy for all is 18 to 24 months. Mothers and offspring have early-life bonding. Mothers are not plugged into milking machines daily.

I have no information if it less likely for offspring to get on the veal express.

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All this is called animal husbandry. If it sounds like abusive husbands, well there you go.

Organized agriculture started 10 thousand years ago, and animals were added later. Most concern for animal welfare is focused on mammals (cattle and pigs being the top two). Less concern for chickens; avian survivors of extinct dinosaurs that failed as 'preppers' for Chicxulub. Mammals 'prepped' for that by being small and unassuming.

The meek did inherit the Earth. But only one mammalian species did super great, and a few others got 'husbanded'.

I better stop now.

 

....concur.