Featured Tesla full self-driving (FSD) now goes behind monthly paywall

So you have a title that says you legally OWN a vehicle and yet Tesla thinks you actually only rent portions of the vehicle and you can't ever completely own the vehicle you hold a legally binding title to? This is so corrupt!

 

Imagine if you sold someone a house you built and they own that house, but there was a part of the house that was locked and they could only use that part of the house by paying a monthy rent. That's the level of f*ckery that these monthly payments for car features has turned into.

 

Will let you know what happens. I bought Autopilot and FSD in 2019 and as long as they are not taken away or disabled, I am happy with what I’ve got.

Tesla had been stupid to not let me transfer FSD to a newer Model 3 except on their short, quarterly sales schedule. So I keep my 2019 running as long as possible. But eventually it too will reach “end of life” and I still have a working 2017 BMW i3.

So I’ll wait on any official Tesla communications or actions. I have no problem with a reasonable ‘maintenance’ service fee but not at $100 per month.

Just don’t “take it back!” Stopping updates would not bother me as the current release meets my requirements.

By blocking WiFi access while keeping Bluetooth, I should be able to block poison pill downloads.

Bob Wilson

 

Big whoop-dee-doo it's going monthly. It's a marketing scheme. They'll try it, & if it works, it'll continue. If not? They'll go back to plan A. It's just like they have done with free supercharging. On again - off again, on again off

 

It is a disguised price increase, as are nearly all the things moved from ownership to subscriptions.

Has anything else gone back to Plan A? I gave up waiting for MS-Office go back, and switched to something else when the old one wouldn't load on to a new machine.

 

same things all msg's are looking at, monthly subscriptions, nothing new under the sun, just first world problems

 

Rent seeking is not capitalism.

Tesla had a subscription plan for a few years. It's dropping the flat fee that will be new.
Seems Mercedes Level 4 system might be subscription only.

 

as is GM's supercruise, which can't work on residential streets etc the way autopilot does. Just saw a Silverado in front of Costco as a sales gimmick and it appears to be included for 3 years, at least on the "High Country" trim level that we have.

 

I understand, Mercedes dropped their driver assist system: https://insideevs.com/news/784404/mercedes-level-3-drive-pilot-canceled/

Bob Wilson

 

didn't bmw already reverse themselves on monthly fee for rear seat heaters?

 

Note they say ready, not here today or in six months like some hucksters..

 

ready, as in, on the dealer lots?

 

It's still word mumbo-jumbo. Just because something says it hardware is ready doesn't mean the software or the sensors or the vehicle is - much less a few million lab - & then millions of test mule miles.

 

We agree based on a false understanding of what is holding off adoption. There is actually an approach that would work:

• Make current release available ONE time for ever, free. -- there is a learning curve that takes months, possibly years, to master. Make a "snapshot in time" available and let every driver discover whether or not it works "good enough" for them.
• Buy a documented update - for a reasonable fee, let owners update their older FSD to a newer release. This requires an accurate listing of new features and corrected flaws of the earlier or current version. To work, Tesla must listen to requested features and reported flaws and then code what their customers want.

Bob Wilson

 

meh.
My current newest vehicle ('23 GMC Sierra) in unencumbered by subscriptions.
I use something I already PAY FOR nav and info, and I have not reached the point in life where my kids or my insurance company have cause to compel me to adopt public transportation.

I've always stated that FSD will NEVER be 'fully.'
It WILL be either 'mostly' utopic or dystopic - depending on whether there is a steering wheel and pedals that accept human input that is 'allowed' by dot.DOT.dot.gov.

Me?
I will more than likely 'age out' before the tech reaches full maturity, but I am already BENEFITING from the tech.
As they say in the shooting community about 'red dots' (gun optics)

......it will make older drivers "drive younger.'

 

Wake me when I can buy one. Hopefully, I’ll still be around

 

<RING> Tesla.

Wish I could find a good enough excuse to visit Florida when you ‘all are there.

Bob Wilson