a piece on voting in America ! Gotta love how easy it can be to run scams world wide, these days. And also in our country. https://wng.org/roundups/election-integrity-bill-faces-uncertain-fate-in-senate-again-1770935741
If there were any significant number of non-citizens voting, then those pushing these new ID laws should already be naming plenty of examples. In my state, and I believe many others, basic voter registration lists (without the more sensitive information the Administration is demanding) are already public information, by precinct and 'almost'-address. As are lists of who actually voted in each election. Any interested group can already comb those lists for improper voters. But so far, what I have been hearing is overwhelmingly about lists of potential non-citizen registered being very heavily loaded with "false positives" due to incorrect or outdated information. E.g. name confusions and immigrants who have become naturalized citizens but various databases still show outdated records from before they were naturalized. And when actual non-citizens are identified as registered to vote, the great majority of them have never actually voted. It appears that if new voter ID requirements are imposed for this year's elections on the very short notice being demanded, the result will be that far more legitimate citizens being disenfranchised from voting, than actual non-citizen votes prevented. That would be a travesty. I believe that any new requirements must do the opposite: For each illegal non-citizen vote prevented, it must result in at most -- and preferably less than -- one legal citizen vote lost.
How many examples do we have of people being killed by explosives? How many by Tattoos? Maybe you shouldn't need an ID to get those either?
Just because you haven't had any experience with it doesn't mean it's not there. I've never known a single person who died from Salmonella or E. coli but we know they are deadly when in food. There's been thousands of voting irregularities reports....more people casting votes than the number of eligible voters happens way more than you would believe! And what about the millions of ballots in the 2020 election where only "BIDEN/HARRIS" was filled in on the entire ballot? Who ONLY votes for one race when they vote? Ever know a single person who did that? Yet there's MILLIONS of ballots with that AND many were inputed between 2 and 4 am and didn't bother with and "chain of custody" controls. (Ask any cop or lawyer what happens to evidence when the chain of custody is broken.....answer: it becomes garbage and is NOT admissible in court.)
A lot more than people being killed by illegal votes in federal elections. Unless one wants to make a fuss about the Florida mess in the 2000 Presidential Election possibly leading to the 'wrong' side winning, possibly leading to one or two improperly justified too-long wars that killed many many people. The FBI's annual Uniform Crime Reports has a specific line item for homicides by explosive. In the old UCR format, it was in Expanded Homicide Data Table 8 (I'm not yet proficient in the new "Crime Date Explorer" forma). BATFE's 2024 Explosives Incident Reports shows 353 bombings, dig through the report for the fatalities. What federal law requires ID to get tatoos? I find none. It seems that most states restrict tattooing only for age, not residence or legal presence, most not even for chemically impaired status. Some have no age minimum with parental consent, and at least one doesn't require even that.
Yes, a very wide variety of irregularities do occur, I've long heard figures in the range of 0.1 - 0.5% of all ballots cast. Most of the time, less than the final winning margins, though very notable exceptions include Florida's 2000 Presidential election, and Washington State's 2004 Governor election, where the final court-ligated margins were much smaller than the ballot irregularity rate. Show us the audit reports. The cases I've heard about turned out to be social media rumors or fakes, all collapsing under closer scrutiny. Yes, it is called "undervoting", and it has always been common. Even I usually leave several low-level contests un-voted, though never a majority of the down-ballot. Undervoting always happens in every state, blue, red, and purple, to the benefit of both major candidates. In Presidential elections, typically 5 to 8 million people vote for President but not for a Congresscritter. (The sources I see don't count entirely blank down-ballots, just look at the contest for U.S. House of Reps.) In 2020, the gap was lower than usual at slightly over 4 million. If you believe that fraudulent undervoting flipped any states in 2020, please identify which states. Show me. Attached at the bottom of this reply is a 2020 Federal Election Commission table to get you started. The publication contains additional tabulations to help you. The FEC shows similar reports for every federal election back to 1982. Except the 2024 report, which is surprisingly short and sparse. Show us the evidence. Your claims sound much more like the many debunked conspiracy theories spread on social media. If this is true, then you WILL be able to show us the vote discrepancies in the very detailed election results posted on the afflicted state's *.gov websites where all these happened, or show us which specific states are hiding it. The 2-4 a.m. inputs are because the election staffs keep working throughout night to handle the huge workloads. If there are any 'ghost' ballots, you will be able to show them by showing that the by-precinct results don't add up to the state totals. And/or find specific precincts where the number of votes exceed the number of voters. These will show in the audited and certified result reports. Or, to repeat an old slogan from this website: "Pictures, or it didn't happen."
Perhaps they don't want the data to be broadly seen. "But binding risk-limiting audits (RLAs) or hand recounts should be routine for all elections, especially when the stakes are high and the results are close. We believe that, under the current circumstances when massive software breaches are known and documented, recounts are necessary and appropriate to remove all potential doubt and to set an example for security best practices in all elections." https://bradblog.com/Docs/letter-to-vp-harris-111324.pdf "There are often many more votes for the Republican presidential candidate (Trump) than for the Republican Senate candidate (or major down-ballot race). Especially in the swing states, we did not find this on the Democratic side. Instead, on the Democratic side, we find an opposite phenomenon. There are a large number of votes for the Democratic Senate candidate (or major down-ballot race) where there is no vote for the Democratic presidential candidate (Harris)" Strange Numbers - by SMART Elections and Lulu Friesdat
Don't forget all those lawyers that got disbarred over that too or the multi-million dollar defamation settlements. People see what they want to see and you can always find "your own truth" somewhere on the internet. It's not like there's an editor or gatekeeper that you can hold accountable for these falsehoods. Equivalent to the "alternative facts" of his first administration. AKA; lies..... I'm a registered Republican; but if I smell BS; I call it out.... I didn't vote for him either time; and went with the lesser of two evils. I don't cast a vote for everything on a ballot either; because I didn't have the time to do the proper research on the issue. So I leave it blank - it's as simple as that. Trying to say there was some dark intention is simply grasping at straws or trying to argue with a 2-year old. The ballot doesn't say that you must make a choice on everything on the ballot. And lets not forget that there was one person of each party present during the vote count - if something underhanded was going on why didn't either of them speak out, with the cameras rolling????? Because it's all horse manure from a sore loser... Some of my other colleagues didn't feel that way; but hey this is a free country and we're allowed to debate these issues for now....
