Hello! 2017 Gen 4 Prius 135,000km I recently had a very slow coolant leak. Eventually found evidence of coolant crust on the thermostat housing where it mounts to the timing chain cover. However, in the course of ruling out some of the other possible sources of coolant leak I pulled the plugs and borescoped for head gasket. To my horror, cylinder 4 was "steam clean" with very little carbon on the piston, but no evidence of any coolant in the cylinder. Fearing the worst I moved on to the rest of the cylinders only to find them all in identical condition - mostly clean with no evidence of coolant. All spark plugs in identical condition. Car Care Nut has a video where he eventually diagnoses a leak in the notorious EGHE, but originally suspects head gasket: Look up "Almost Misdiagnosed This Mysterious Engine Coolant Leak!" On the Car Care Nut YouTube (don't think I can post links here) At 8:15 he borescopes the cylinders and his reaction to the cleanliness says it all, but he goes on to find all cylinders in identical clean condition as well. What have other Gen 4 owners noticed in terms of cleanliness of their pistons? Is the Gen 4 simply a clean-running engine or should those of us with clean pistons be hunting for leaks in the ERG cooler or throttle body?
This is what washed pistons look like from a blown head gasket on a 2016. The head had been leaking between the 2 and 3 cylinder. The other picture is cylinder 1 with a borescope where there was no water intrusion.
Unless you have cold start misfires; I wouldn't suspect head gasket issues. That's a gen3 issue.. 2016-2018 gen4 has well documented EGHE leaks and there's a TSB on it. Don't know if it get covered in Canada. Ours is covered under the car's emissions warranty. If yours isn't covered; just loop the coolant hose to bypass the leak. Good Luck. PS; I don't know why your obsessed about the piston top cleanness; if they are all identical. What seems more reasonable? 1. You've got coolant leaks in all 4 cylinders or 2. Your engine is burning normally, without misfires? Your car barely has 84K miles on it; so I wouldn't expect a black piston top; unless your burning a lot of oil and the cylinder has been misfiring for a good long while.
Update from OP Car continued to lose coolant after the thermostat replacement and began blowing smoke on the highway at hard acceleration and occasional hard starts when ICE kicks in. Took car to Toyota dealer for a diagnostic to rule out head gasket and/or heat exchanger or EGR cooler. Specifically discussed the exhaust TSB. Toyota dealer had car for several days without conclusive diagnostic and suggested exploratory engine disassembly. Took car home and looped the exhaust heat exchanger coolant lines with the NAPA Canada version of the Gates 18777 (10777 for $27CAD) All symptoms resolved. Back to normal.
I would NEVER go back to that dealership because they obviously can't diagnose themselves out of a paper bag!! They don't know how to read an OEM TSB and don't understand ENGLISH on how to verify that???? I'd tell everyone I know to steer clear of that dealership...... The simplest way to verify this is to perform a coolant leak test. It should come out positive. Loop-out the EGHE and perform another coolant leak test. If it still leaks, the problem isn't the EGHE - If the leak stops; there's your answer. How can you get an inconclusive from that????? They are either incompetent or thieves and maybe both.... If you wanted to do a one step test, just disconnect the EGHE, plug one end and perform the leak test on the other end of the coolant hose. It really isn't that difficult, unless they're stupid or just a thief. Kinda of tough to tell them to STOP, when they have your motor apart for NO GOOD REASON; forcing you to spend more money there and probably breaking something else in the process.
I just love this. Let's just tear stuff apart till we find something interesting. Everyone should be aware that you can get a low mileage JDM engine for 1500 bucks and install it in a day if you had a major problem with these engines. The only reason I did the head gasket is because I didn't want to trip over another engine in my garage. I still have an engine from a 2011 swap I did the other day. Dealers sell cars and if you're not getting it fixed under warranty, they are the last people you want wrenching on your car. Glad the op came back and gave the update. I wish he had stuck a camera in the spark plug holes before he took it to the dealer, would have saved him a buck or two but whatever works. I use one of those 20 dollar amazon usb cameras that plug into the laptop I run techstream on. Makes things easier to see for these old eyes. I put the same hose in this new to me 2016. Living in Texas I won't miss the heat exchanger.
I went to cedar park Toyota to get a key cut. I swear it was incredible. It felt like I was at the airport. It was HUGE inside. Free mocha lattes, a food court, trinkets shop, there were 50 employees (I say 50, a employee said 30) people sitting everywhere in huge comfortable seats with tv and entertainment everywhere waiting for their cars to be completed. They charged me 15 dollars to cut my Chinese fob key, I was going to get a second so I wouldn't have to come back. They wanted 45 dollars for a blank but would cut it for free. What a deal! Somebody has to pay for all that luxury and cafe mochas so everyone should keep that in mind if they get service at the dealer. I will return with my Chinese blank and get the second key cut. I also got to say that everyone was more than sweet and pleasant. The parts person even provided me with my keycode. Got to love that! and I did get my freebie coffee mocha
That EGHE is only suppose to heat-up the coolant and engine faster, so the ECU can lean out the mixture; thereby lowering toxic emissions output of the car. All these emissions tricks on newer cars is the reason we no longer choke on engine exhaust gases when they roll by. YMMV
