35 miles ev for the 2nd Gen pip after all?

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  1. inferno

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    no quote or link to toyota. it depends on who's doing the measuring.
     
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    For an European auto show, the range is likely under the NEDC test cycle.
     
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    Exactly. Sadly, the foxbusiness.com article (apparently a republished article from Motley Fool) gets this completely wrong. It also quotes the Ioniq EV as being 155 miles which is known to be a NEDC estimate on its 28 kWh battery and naively compares it to the GM-claimed 200+ mile EPA-based range projection of a Bolt EV with a 60 kWh battery. It also compares a putative 35 miles future PiP against the "50" mile range of the new Volt.

    Actually, if you approximately scaled the Volt's 53 mile EPA range to NEDC it would be around 78 miles. A scaled Bolt EV would be around 300 miles to the Ioniq's 155 miles NEDC miles. A more apt comparison to the Ioniq EV would be the updated Nissan LEAF with the 30 kWh battery which is rated, coincidentally, 155 miles NEDC.

    The guy writing this article doesn't seem to have any special secret knowledge or understanding beyond what people here already are writing about. The 2nd gen PiP rumor of 35 miles EV range is just another article mentioning the alleged Toyota target of 20-25 miles EPA EV range or about twice the range of the original PiP. That seems plausible to me since it would be weird for Toyota to bother with a new PiP that can't compete on basic features and specs with the Ioniq.
     
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